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What defines an Expedition Yacht?

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  1. karo1776

    karo1776 Senior Member

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    I agree but the bubble can be made safe and of course the observation dome would be watertight bulkheaded off with an kept closed access WT door. Just use a certified acrylic submarine rated dome.

    Anyway... the size... has to be much smaller for the yacht than the Wally WHY... I think something around 28-32m OAL would give as much or more volume and deck space as a conventional 50m yacht!
  2. HTMO9

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    The answer of that question is quite easy for me. To be able to do things like this and make journeys like this with it !!!!! And have the loved ones and guests feel safe and comfortable while doing it. Plus (very important) the crew is happy and does not sign off during the journey.

    Pictures of the circumnavigation of Silver Cloud made by her owner. Memories, I would never forget!

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  3. PacBlue

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    Looks very similar to the ZF azimuth package on the 88' Ocean King being built in Italy....

    Steel Yatch, Ocean King 88 | Cantieri Navali Chioggia
  4. HTMO9

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    No, that is a totally different system. On the pivoting nozzle, only the nozzle moves around the prop, the prop sits on a standard shaft. The system mounted on the Ocean King 88 is the ZF version of the rudder propeller. Some years ago, ZF bought the dutch company Holland Roer Propeller (HRP). It is their product. Very good stuff by the way.
  5. karo1776

    karo1776 Senior Member

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    Well the 90 year old of the household has her idea too...

    A couple years ago she saw these houses in Holland on concrete barges with four big columns on each corner. She was asking what the columns were for... I forgot about all this... she did not. The columns had jack-able legs that held the barge at one place and/or height.

    So when I am talking new boat... "someone" suggests this... then this rallies the rest of the ladies into thinking floating house... and saying it could be perfect, for everyone." And, the benefit for me is it "floats" and "can be moved into place"... and the justification... it would be cheaper and you could have several spread around the world for vacations.... and the ubiquitous now getting really old and winning solution for everything... "everyone around here, including you, is getting too old... for whatever".

    Now I admit the ladies once they are installed on the boat they don't want to get off... and this tendency increases with age number... of course staying at a hotel works the same... we'll just stay in the suite and order room service... and read... and talk... and complain... rather than go and see the sights.
  6. HTMO9

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    Swath for explorer

    Here my final argument, why SWATH must be great for an expedition or explorer yacht.

    If even the American Heraldic Bird believes, it is a perfect landing place, it must be good!:)

    picture made by the owner of Silver Cloud

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  7. karo1776

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    Pilgrim... that cannot be argued with... !

    And, helicopters like it too!

    Really, really agree the SWATH and SWASH boats make the best expedition yachts... but social and stylistic conventions prejudice most against that FACT.
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    By that logic my fish pond is also a great expedition yacht.
  9. HTMO9

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    At least you must have good fish in it. These big birds are selective.:D
  10. Old Phart

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    Where do they land when the ice melts? :rolleyes:
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    another 'stablized monohull design

    From Swath ideas back to the stabilized-monohull concept,...the Palmer Johnson 48m SuperSport series.

    The vessels have an innovative wavepiercer displacement hull making them three times more stable than a monohull. The slender main hull increases efficiency with sponsons that have a positive effect on stability, roll dampening, speed and power. The wave piercing bow reduces pitching and will be more comfortable with no slamming as yacht goes through waves and not over them.

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    ^^^ I notice the BOW is influenced from the old dreadnought battleship / Ancient Greek ships of War .
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    Gee, I thought that was a Philippe Starck original design. :D

    Hint: Think MY A.
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    Going slightly off topic... there's a building in London that was modeled after the prow of a dreadnaught - it was built for the UK Admiralty, presumably so all the Admirals could imagine they were still at sea.
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    Would have been less costly to put a basket of limes in the room. :D
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    "Less costly" is not a phrase the military high-ups are acquainted with. These days they tend to waste it on repeated design changes to aircraft carriers rather than just offices though. :(
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    Two Appealing Ones

    I am not a 'connoisseur' of power yachts (prefer motorsailing vessels), but here are two rather nice looking ones I saw recently:

    1) Hall Russell Ocean / Expedition / Long Range Motor Yacht 120'. Purchased by the current owner and totally rebuilt in 2006 as a luxury expedition yacht with Atlantic crossing capability at the Brooke Yacht Yard in Lowestoft, with all the machinery being replaced in 2000. Main Engine is a 1000 HP English Electric V.8. 200 hours. 11 knots Cruise. Range is 5000 miles.
    The boat feels like it has the space of a much larger boat similar to 150'
    Hall Russel Cruiser.jpg
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    2) 42.3 metre motor yacht Masquerade of Sole, a classic Feadship designed by De Voogt and built in 1983. The yacht was immediately shipped to the Pendennis facility for an extensive refit lasting more than a year. Given a new lease of life the yacht is now back on the water with a new design and a new name – A2.
    a2 yacht.jpg
    a2 yacht, before-after.jpg

    I guess I just like the older classic look rather than those modern 'curvy lines' looks :rolleyes:
  18. K1W1

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    Hi,

    I was not done at the Brooke Yacht Yard in Lowestoft.

    It was done by some people using the name at a yard further down the river.

    I met a guy representing them at MYS a few years ago who told me what they were doing.
  19. karo1776

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    Hi,

    Could you please enlighten us as to exactly how this motor yacht compares to the HMS Endeavour other than the fact that they both float?

    Also, What makes this such a great expedition vessel in your opinion?