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Yachts with Unusual Layouts

Discussion in 'General Yachting Discussion' started by curiouspeter, Jun 24, 2016.

  1. curiouspeter

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    What are some of the yachts with unusual/innovative layouts?

    Most yachts have rather predictable general arrangements, but like everything else in life, a few are distinctively different. The owner suite on Boadicea (at least before it was Reborn-ed) was situated amidship on the main deck, abaft the main dining room. Vanish has a full-beam owner suite amidship between the bridge and the sky lodge.

    It is always nice to see something new.
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    I always thought Lady Mona K (ex-Lady Ghislaine) layout was a bit different. Owners suite aft on the main deck, dining room forward, with the wheelhouse a half deck up. Upper deck is the main lounge aft and an observation lounge forward above the bridge.
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    Most, if not all of the yachts designed by Jon Bannenberg are a bit different. In fact, it is hard to find a new variation he hasn't already realized... Long ago..!
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    What size are you talking about?
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    Let's say 24m+.
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    An interesting point you brought up. I've kind of wondered if anyone laid out a design where the number of state rooms was reduced in favor of increasing the size of the master state room in say a 24m or so yacht. Instead of a four state room layout that seems standard for this size how about a two state room layout with both the master and vip state rooms increased in size?
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    Some have done it. However, there are two negatives to the approach. The first is that many people intend to charter the boats and those who charter always want more staterooms. Second, while they might make great boats for the original owner, resell value is hurt tremendously by fewer staterooms. Really much like homes, the more bedrooms, the more it will sell for.

    I would also say that most boats greater than 24m have at least two very nice staterooms and all the staterooms are decent. The other issue on boats that size is crew and often crew space is inadequate. For those who cruise with fewer people aboard and don't need all the staterooms, it's easy enough to then just use them for extra closets and storage.

    I have also known people to combine rooms after purchase. It's just a poor financial decision even if it improves the boat for that owner. It's like buying a three bedroom home and combining two bedrooms to make a huge master. When it comes time to sell, you're going to need to convert it back.
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    Yes, I ran a 98' motoryacht that had 3 staterooms for guests (a single bed in each stateroom), but one of those was used for the Captain the owner had for years before me, then I slept in it once. It then had 2 crew staterooms that slept 4 or 5 crew. It had a huge salon, aft deck, and diningroom table and stuff like that.
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    The 72 meter Feadship "Predator" was launched with 3 staterooms . One master and two guest S/R for the owner and his two sons.
    They're now in the shipyard in LaCiotat adding two additional state rooms amongst other systems being renewed. The refit is being
    remotely overseen by the Makkum yard.
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    I wonder where they are going to put these new staterooms.
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    I'm curious about that too. The original layout had a large owner's office between the existing guest staterooms and the master stateroom. My guess is that could be sacrificed for the new staterooms. The lower deck is all machinery and crew space, although you could probably find a way to make room for one stateroom without shrinking the crew area too much.
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    The crew area as of now looks quite spacious.
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    Found this very unusual layout feature on the new Nobiskrug yacht project Plan B

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    This unique feature will make her the fastes selling yacht in the world :p. Question, is this for the crew or the ownership / guests ? A real must have!
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    Most people don’t spend a lot of time in the staterooms especially when cruising or on charter, although the big window trend may encourage people to spend more time down below

    At the low end of the spectrum the Lazzara 84 I ve been running for almost three year has 5 guests SR plus two crew aft. Most boats under 90/95 have 4 SR. I was involved in the search and the 5 SR layout was important for the owners. The master is pretty big but the other 4 are on the small side, obviously. All depend on the owners needs

    For charter, it s a trade off. Being able to sleep 10 is a big plus but I am sure some guests prefer boats with 4 larger SR.

    It s all about trade off and compromise. Take side decks for instance... some boats in the 80/90’ range go with extended deck house layout / no side deck to maximize interior space. Personally that s a deal killer not just for line handling but for traffic flow. Having crew or wet guests being able to go around outside is a must.
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    I used to run a 97' FB MY that had 2 staterooms.....1 master and 1 vip…...it had a third that sort of could be used for guests but that was used for the Captain...….and it had crew quarters for 4.....LOL...…. Also the master was full beam and then had only a queen bed in it and 5' from the bed to the drawers on each side of the bed, it was a very odd boat.
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    I have a different perspective as far as number of staterooms and guest onboard. If you are an owner using the boat for long periods of time and you also hosts guests for longer periods; not weekenders; than 6 is the magic number. If you have 8 people you would not be able to carry a conversation in the group and the group will automatically split into two. Furthermore, serving the extra two makes a difference both for the crew and as a host for you, because you will not be able to give enough attention to those extra 2 guests, hence to all your guests. Of course, I am thinking of boats around 100 feet, which most probably have 3-4 crew if you want to give them adequate space.

    On a different note, most sailboats at this range have 3 cabins anyway...