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yacht crew video....the dark side

Discussion in 'Yacht Crews' started by RobertaGill, Jul 29, 2008.

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  1. GrahamF

    GrahamF Senior Member

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    In my experience when i was living in FT is that Captains employ the people they feel comfortable with. I know several American Captains and some say they will never employ American crew as they had just bad experiences with them. I have also met Captains that they will never employ SA, Aus, NZ or British crew as they had bad experience with crew of those nationalities. I had problems with Crew agents as some people who work for the crew agents give the jobs to friends. All my work I have found walking the dock. When i was working in FT is met several American crew and some just wanted to get on a boat to get experience, it does not matter what size and there there were some that wanted to get on to a mega yacth from day one with no experience. This thread could get very interesting.
  2. Gareth

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    It's interesting to me that she uses YouTube as a medium, possibly even more interesting that we take the time to watch it (O.K. I could not endure the whole thing) I think most Skippers have learned to ask questions like "Do you realise that your job may include wiping faeces off toilet bowls, are you prepared to do this?",I think this young lady would have answered "no".

    My daughter is an American and I hope she never has to wipe other people's faeces off a toilet bowl either.

    We've all me support crew who think, and may have been told that the job is a permanent party. I had a potential cook say in an interview "I'm not that interested in cooking, I just want to see the Caribbean". I think she was German.
  3. Pascal

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    as a captain on medium size boats (60/80'), when a blonde flushes a tampon down the head, i usually pull it myself. not pleasant but not the end of the world... I wouldn't even consider saying... sorry, that head is out of service till we can find a "technician".
  4. NYCAP123

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    We do live in a "not my job" society don't we. I've heard dock hands who wouldn't handle the pump out job or pooper scoop the lawn and captains who said they wouldn't put down teak oil and the best was one who said he didn't have to know how to deckhand because he was a captain (a newbe 50 ton no less). Good for you Pascal. In my book a captain's job is whatever needs to be done that he's able to do (assuming the proper person isn't available) and that should pretty much go for any job. In 20 years I've been lucky enough to not have to clear a head, but I know how and stand ready.
  5. Starrider

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    I cannot believe what im reading here!!! I come from the old school where I skippers progress through the ranks...from deckhands through bosun level to mate, and eventually Skipper. You cannot have Captains and Mates and even bosun's trying to be leaders to their crew, without having had any experience doing the dirty work themselves. NYCAP, you say you have never cleaned a head, or had to clean up vomit in your glorious 20 years experience? Were you one of the Instant Skipper Class, if not, then you must have been a artfull dodger as a deckhand. But I will give you credit for saying that you will be on standby to do it...hopefully with the help of an propperly experienced deckhand. Come on guys(and gals), lead by example, and be humble. Go and do some management courses instead of daydreaming about all those over- glorified Master Mariner courses that might make you look good at cocktail parties.
  6. NYCAP123

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    Starrider,
    You misread. I didn't say I'd never "cleaned" a head. Jeez you'll get me in trouble with my wife.:D I said I'd been lucky enough to never have had to "clear" a head. Believe me, my hands have been many places I don't even want to think about. In fact I should have added "on a boat" because I've been all through the septic system in my house. I don't ask anyone ever to do a job I'm not willing to do (and most likely have done)myself.
  7. Starrider

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    Ha ha, sorry for what seemed a personal attack, but you had me worried there for a while. I do believe that there are so-called Captains out there with that attitude, and it is worrying too say the least. I guess my 20 years navy career makes me see things in a very different light, with the emphasis obvously placed on leadership. I was a Master at Arms onboard, and had a crew of 60 delinquents under my wing. This also entailed being the link between the officers and the crew as well as disciplinarian onboard(including Officers). I was a hard man to deal with, but I was fair in my judgement and punishment...repects goes both ways. We all worked hard and obviously played hard, and this made us a very tight knit and efficient crew, and this, in my oppinion, is the essence of having a "well oiled ship". Keep up the good work.

    "WE WERE SAILORS ONCE......AND YOUNG"
  8. NYCAP123

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    No problem starrider. The only personal attack I was worried about was the one that would come from behind my shoulder Saturday morning.:D BTW, what do you mean we were young once? I refuse to grow up.;) Just ask the one behind my shoulder Saturday morning.:)
  9. Starrider

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    He He....as long as its not the chief stew. I believe I have said enough about this whole issue of "the dark side". It sounds like we are in Star Wars, with us sounding like Yoda's. The bottom line is, we as Skippers are there to lead our crews and to get the job done. Problem is that some of us can sniff out crewmembers that are bull****ters easier than smelly socks. But hey, someone has got to do the job. Im gonna look for a more interesting thread....
  10. stevenpet

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    It's too bad this young lady never saw a heaven in her hell.

    I've always been a hard worker and I've always found a lot of satisfaction in doing a job well. I've had many jobs that were difficult, dirty, paid poorly and with bad hours.

    In all of these jobs there have been others who whined incessantly, refused to do certain tasks and never pulled their own weight. Those people were quick to get turned over and always complained about how unfair everyone is to them. However, once the whiners are gone, the work place turns into a completely different place. Some of my fondest memories are of times when our team all pulled together and did their job and made it work out, in spite of everything that went wrong.

    The people I've felt closest to in my life came from the tough time, the times when their true character and mine came out.

    I thank Milton for his words on this topic: "The mind is its own place, and in itself/Can make a Heaven of Hell, or a Hell of Heaven."
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    Last night I was reading another thread where the fellow wanted a multi-national crew and he went on and on about the experiences he'd had eating haggis, etc., etc. Now there is nothing wrong with anything he said, but I was struck by how complicated it is for him to have a fulfilled life. We all run into that on a daily basis in this business watching thousands of dollars spent daily by people searching for the moments of joy and satisfaction as expressed very eloquently in the preceding passage. I've often gotten more enjoyment going to dinner at TGIF than my employers got spending thousands at a fancy spot or from the satisfaction of completing a task than they got from going to the other side of the world. Fancy toys and exotic places are fun but I'm convinced that happiness requires none of it. In fact that often interferes with it.
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    Isn't this the same as a crewman on a fishing boat being sick at the sight of 'Fish'.

    Each to their own destiny!! or not!!
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    (NYCAP123 is referring to my post in > GENERAL YACHTING DISCUSSION > Frequently Asked Yacht Questions > Rules for foreign flag vessels in US > #23)

    I’m not sure you’re getting my point. I didn’t have all those experiences because I had created a complicated life for my fulfillment, quite the contrary. I had those experiences because I was living in a heaven when so many of my American friends could only see a hell. I just happened to be in Edmonton the night the Oilers won their first Stanley Cup playoff and most of my American friends spent the evening in their apartment playing cards. No one else wanted the roommate from Yap because all they could see was the smell of fish constantly permeating from the kitchen.

    I strongly believe that the destination of one’s travels (or our journey of life) are not nearly as important as the people you travel with. That even the worse weather, accidents and travel mishaps in life can be used to create the memories and open up opportunities of a lifetime when you’re seeking a heaven in what could be a hell.
  14. NYCAP123

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    Absolutely got your point which is why I wrote "there is nothing wrong with anything he said ". The point I was making was that it's great to be able to enjoy the simple things in life. As I read your post all I could think of was that while you're striving to experience the lifestyles of other nationalities they are striving to experience yours. Where I live we have Connecticut just across the Sound. When you think about it it's down right comical to watch their boats coming here as ours go there every weekend. We travel all around the world to find what pleases us most and usually end up finding it in our own back yard eventually.
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    "I just happened to be in Edmonton the night the Oilers won their first Stanley Cup playoff and most of my American friends spent the evening in their apartment playing cards."

    So, let me get this straight ... you purchased a ticket to attend a commercial mass entertainment spectacle or, after the fact, stood on the sidelines observing others celebrate some event that had meaning to them.

    Your American friends chose to spend their time together talking and entertaining each other on a personal basis ... tell us again who missed what opportunities?
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    Actually, I think that if you're in Canada and the Stanly Cup is on you can get arrested for not watching it. When the Oilers win I think you can legally be shot.:D Back in the early 90's I was iced in at the Straits of Canso for 2 weeks. We got 2 stations on the TV. I could watch hockey in French or English.:D
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    i think the nyccapt is right i have been all over the world and owned some vert fine yachts but i still like crusing the west coast

    :) travler
  18. stevenpet

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    No Marmot, you get it wrong again. That night I watched the game with all the Canadians and far from standing on the sidelines, I was actively involved in the celebration. Nice try though.

    The following weekend I spent with my fellow Americans, just like the many weekends before the big game.

    It's obvious that you would have missed an amazing party, just like my fellow Americans and good for you. Maybe it would have been you that won at cards that night. I doubt anyone even remembers who did. I, however, will never forget Edmonton on that night. But I might be wrong--maybe you would have remembered.