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  1. ribtickler2, Dec 18, 2010
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    sorry - just realised you're not allowed to include URLs in the posts!
  2. discokachina, Dec 18, 2010
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    Opal C Is Sold

    Hi Adrian, Last time I heard from Aquamarine he said the sale had closed, he had renamed her Lady Arraya, and was taking her to Thailand where she would be chartered. If you Google Lady Arraya you will find some listings for her under her new name. I am sorry she has gone that far as I had fantasies about her too.
  3. ribtickler2, Dec 18, 2010
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    thanks

    for your quick response on this - the superyachts add still seems live - I suspect her purchaser may, whilst now chartering, have her on the market too - not an uncommon approach to ownership - a millionaire one responded as to whether his yacht was for sale: 'Everything I have is for sale, excepting the wife - but don't make me an offer on her - PLEASE!'

    As it was previously in private ownership I'm surprised she is compliant MCA etc. for the charter mkt!
  4. aquamarine, Dec 19, 2010
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    Hi ribtickler2,

    Lady Arraya (ex Opal C) is now in Phuket where she made her first official appearance as a Charter yacht at the Asia Superyachts Rendez Vous from December 16th to 18th. Lady Arraya is not for sale, the listing you have seen is probably not updated.
  5. discokachina, Sep 4, 2011
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    Opal C Now In Phuket

    Check out this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kr_ZfZ_Ti8&feature=player_embedded#! of the Asia Superyacht Rendevouz where Opal C, now Lady Arraya, is seen in several scenes. At 6 minutes and 30 seconds we are treated to a video tour of Lady Arraya including the opening of her infamous rotating dining salon. Quite fantastic! See if you can name all the superyachts cruising Phuket in the video. Hint: one is Silver Zwei, one of the biggest and fastest!
  6. colintraveller, Sep 5, 2011
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    Isnt that similar to another build named Obession ...


    TBH it's the visual aspect more than anything that is turning away buyers because unless they have very deep pockets and can afford a complete rebuild only then will the visual aspect be rectified
  7. Old Phart, Sep 6, 2011
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    The new owner has left the spoiler in tack, as may easily be seen in the video - post # 45.

    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder - owner and admirers.

    Obsession may need a rectification in your eyes; but not in mine.

    http://www.obsessionyacht.com/gallery/
  8. colintraveller, Sep 6, 2011
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    Obession got review in BI tbh it looked rather smart inside ..

    outset looks can be decieving
  9. discokachina, Sep 6, 2011
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    Bannenberg's Fantastic Designs

    Considering both Lady Arraya and Obsession have the same
    Shipyard: Oceanfast
    Naval Architect: Phil Curran Design
    Exterior Designer: Bannenberg & Rowell Design
    Interior Designer: Bannenberg & Rowell Design
    it is understandable that they have some similar design elements.

    I love Bannenberg's work and find it interesting that his yachts seem to take a long to sell and often after many reductions in price. I guess the strong love hate feelings his fantastic designs emote are the reason. Sea Bowld who just had her price reduced again, this time by 2M:( , is a good example. Obsession just had her first market correction of a whopping 3M.

    Bannenberg produced what I would call real yacht lover yachts! But apparently not for everyone. ;)
  10. AMG, Sep 6, 2011
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    Sea Bowld is an Oceanfast/Sorgiovanni design, not Bannenberg. Nice yacht anyway.
  11. discokachina, Sep 6, 2011
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    Sorry, thanks for bringing that to my attention!

    I think Sorgiovanni does beautiful work too as Sea Bowld is at the front of my hit parade ahead of Mystique, Perfect Persuasion, Obsession, Ocean Seven, and Gazelle.
  12. K1W1, Sep 6, 2011
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    Hi,

    Was the current incarnation of Bannenberg and Rowell responsible for the current styling these yachts or as it Jon Bannenberg himself who should be credited with creating these unique vessels?
  13. discokachina, Sep 6, 2011
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    Oh, undoubtedly Jon Bannenberg is the designer.

    I cut and pasted the Bannenberg and Rowell listing from http://www.***************.com/yachts/details/370 On other Jon Bannenberg designed yachts like Obsession http://www.***************.com/yachts/details/346 Bannenberg and Rowell are listed as the designer as well. So sorry for the confusion.
  14. 84far, Sep 6, 2011
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    Jon Bannenberg did some great designs for his time, unfortunately his designs dated because he was designing based on trens in that era... 80's-90's fads.

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  15. AMG, Sep 7, 2011
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    I think you have missed that Bannenberg was setting the trends of that era, and the coming. More or less every good design today is following in his footsteps. Many of the more famous Designers were also working at Burnsall Street when it all happened...

    That said, I don´t love all of his designs. Some boats were not easy to build, to maintain or to handle, as they were breaking many rules. But they started a revolution where Designers replaced Naval Architects when it comes to both exterior styling and interior planning.

    Before that, the Designers were only working with interior decoration and most yachts looked the same on the outside.
  16. 84far, Sep 7, 2011
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    Like you, there's not much I wouldn't do to get my little mits on some of the boats that he designed... But, there's a few that I still cringe over.

    I think a lot of his lines and design features were based on what were popular in that era, Coral Island and Kingdom 5KR ring a few bells.

    I think at the moment Wally is setting the trends... Just some thoughts. Cheers

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  17. AMG, Sep 7, 2011
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    Coral Island and Nabila (Kingdom) are two of his best designs, with features copied even today.

    Wally have a nice line of boats, but I think Agnelli was ahead of them with Stealth (by Frers) and the rib-like tenders.
  18. 84far, Sep 7, 2011
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    What! Coral Island has no consistency, and Nabila... very interesting. Both designs are dated. I think Coral Island at the time was the 6th biggest privately owned boat in the world (hence one of his biggest), it's now just scrapping the top 100 :rolleyes: .

    What about Carinthia VI (One), that sheerline is stunning! And Limitless, even Rising Sun has a touch of genesis.

    Lars, we need a pub and some beers to talk this through :D . Cheers

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  19. AMG, Sep 7, 2011
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    I don´t agree. But the sand colour of Kingdom is not doing her justice. Here is a picture of Nabila during sea trials, with her sharp lines, silvery hull, squared portholes, dry stacks in the wings, a tubular mast and what have you. All seen on modern yachts today...

    If you´ll come to Sweden, the beers are on me...:)

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  20. 84far, Sep 7, 2011
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    Haha! I'm just booking the tickets... haven't been to Sweden yet :D .

    I haven't seen that photo (looks a lot better). I'll give you the colour, sheerline and the stem on Nabila, I just think it lacks something, the mix of straight edges and curves arn't coming together. Maybe more curves in the roof lines to complement the sheerline and that spoon stern, and possibly less gaps between the windows (longer windows). Hey, nothings perfect right.

    The colour... he didn't drive a DMC DeLorean, though the Mclaren F1 car is sporting that same trend... the brushed alloy look.

    Far
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