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What Do you Think About Ocean Yachts?

Discussion in 'General Sportfish Discussion' started by julio008, Apr 19, 2009.

  1. julio008

    julio008 New Member

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    Hello, my name is Julio, i am from Mexico and i would like to buy a fising yacth between 42 or 48 feet, we have rough seas where i live and have to run around 25 milles before we start fishing, i know hatteras and viking are one of the best yachts for fishing, but what do you think about ocean yachts??. Can you help me to decide what brand of yacht shold i buy??. (I am looking for a convertible model)

    THANKS,
    julio008
  2. NYCAP123

    NYCAP123 Senior Member

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    I used to run a guys 43 Ocean back and forth from Miami to LI. On flat seas that boat was fun. She ran 29kts. all day and loved it. I also had her in about 18' seas and got home. That said I found that in a small (2' or so) chop on the bow she pounded bad bringing us down to about 12kts., and that narrow transom wants to yaw in a following sea. That boat had me running from full speed forward to full reverse and working the wheel and tabs coming in an inlet.
  3. julio008

    julio008 New Member

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    Tank you, i would use it in Tampico Mexico, that is located in the golf of mexico 250 miles down from south padre island, i don`t know what to buy jet, i have many options and want to choose the best one, i am between, and Ocean, Riviera or Lhurs, what do you think navegates better??. Thanks, for taking your time on helping me out.

    Regards,
    Julio
  4. CaptainMoto

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    Have you looked at Mikelson? They are in San Diego and have a great reputation in your part of the world.
  5. julio008

    julio008 New Member

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    I am on the east side, and are looking for something to do some marlin fishing.
  6. Capt J

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    Oceans are a lot of boat for the money. But they are an average built boat for average seas. I would not even consider a Luhrs. Riviera's are ok. I would honestly look for a used Cabo, or Viking or Hatteras if it were me......
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    NYCAP123 Senior Member

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    2nd that.
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    Julio,
    I agree with the Capt J and NYCAP123 but don't miss the opportunity to look at a Mikelson. They make a 43 that has the space and ride of many 50s with lots of unique design features by Tom Fexas. Not too many on the East coast but there are several fishing out of California and Mexico. cc-2.jpg
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    julio008 New Member

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    What do you think about egg harbor are the ass good as ocean and riviera???
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    julio008 New Member

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    sorry but i want to make the best decicion, what about silverston yachts??
    tanks,
  11. Capt J

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    Egg Harbor's are a step better. I just ran a 2006 50' Egg Harbor about 250NM, it had a nice layout and very nice fit and finish and touches. But they really missed the boat in comfort. The mattresses were all short (less than 6' long), the exhaust noise on the flybridge was unbearable and it had the station wagon effect where everything in the cockpit including the salon windows was always wet, and it rode ok but not great the COG was too far foward. But if you can live with those, buy one......

    Like I said earlier Cabo, Viking, Hatteras........Silvertons are best suited for a lake, not the ocean. In your size range, I'd go for a 48' cabo FB or a 45' Cabo express, or a 45 or so Viking.
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    a Bertram 42' would be a very good option as well.
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    i like bertram, the problem is that all of them comes with volvo engines, and we don`t have dealer down here, so i`d rather stay with cummins or caterpilar.
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    I beg to differ. There are 2 42' Bertrams here in PR with Detroits. Not sure if you would want one with detroits, but they're better than volvo's in any case.
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    i all ready saw them but i`am looking something around 2005
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    julio,

    i guess i'll be the lightening rod. you appear (to Me) to be resisting the very advise you had asked for. is there a reason you appear to be hesitant (to me) to look in the Cabo or Viking direction?

    just don't want to see you work against yourself, and make a purchase that is not best suited for you.


    Mike
  17. Capt J

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    It sounds like he's trying to buy more boat then he can afford.
  18. capttommy

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    Stick to the Ocean Yacht in your price range

    Of all the boats you mentioned, the newer Ocean Yachts are a good choice. Older Ocean yachts had a lot of problems including many of the handling problems you have heard here. The newer ones are much better. I am currently running a 54' and in the process of helping someone buy a 50' which I was very impressed with . we sea trialed it in 3-6' seas and ran 25 knots + right into it. However, we drifted side to and it rolled pretty badly. As long as we kept moving it handled very well. (I have run at least 7 diffferent older models of Oceans as well).

    Keep in mind, Ocean is not as strong a quality as Viking Bertram Hatteras, but for the money you get a lot of boat. Capt Jay loves his Cabos but I have run 2 31', a 35' and 2 45' Cabos and I would not let any of my customers who fish rough water buy them. They are very hard riding and extremely wet although well built.
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    The 31' Cabo was the very first hull Cabo built and did pound and was wet and has long since been replaced. The 35' Cabo is a good boat, but the express is wet and the ride is a 7 out 0f 10. A 35' Carolina Classic is my favorite in that size express and eats any sea you throw at it, albeit not nearly as plush as the Cabo.

    The 45' Cabo on the other hand is a great riding boat, very stable, and dry if you know how to run them and my favorite in their lineup. You have to keep the aft tank full of fuel and keep transfering fuel from the bow to the aft tank as you run the aft tank down and they ride great and are dry. This is on the 2001 and newer hulls. Most all sportfish like the bow tank run dry first such as the 50' Hatteras, 50' Egg Harbor, Cabo's etc. etc.......I ran a 45' Cabo about 3,000 NM and only had to slow down from 31 knot cruise to a 24 knot cruise 1 time.

    The Cabo's are a very well built boat, thats nicely laid out, with a nice cockpit, with great factory support. Whats not to like about them?

    As for the Ocean's, they're a good boat for their price point with a decent build quality. But nothing I would want to make a 120NM round trip to go fishing everytime in.
  20. julio008

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    Thanks, for your information it was really helpfull, i am looking on the new 42, have you been on that boat???????. I used to have a 35 cabo and i have the same opinion you do. Thanks,

    Julio