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The Non Evolution of the Sport Fisher

Discussion in 'General Sportfish Discussion' started by Kafue, Oct 19, 2012.

  1. Capt Ralph

    Capt Ralph Senior Member

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    Wow, that is sexy. I assumed you were still drawing.
  2. Bill106

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    No building and drawing, Far is working on a different "interpretation" of the design if that's the correct wording. Here's a previous version of the two-level mezzanine with the seperate "viewing area" under the cockpit overhang and teak!

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  3. Berean

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    Wow! Sweet! Maybe in another lifetime...sigh...
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    The aft facing ladder seems to make a lot of sense, since when you're running, your body is pushed towards the ladder instead of away from it. The boat is very nice, but needs a little teak to dress it up....hehehe....
  5. Bill106

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    Hey, it's got a teak helm pod, isn't that enough? :D

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  6. Capt Ralph

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    We have learned the hard way; Even this pod is to much teak. I long for a plastic boat with a good non-skid that can be repeated. It always looks great on another boat.
    With just cap rails aft and counter trim in PH and bridge, We have TOO MUCH teak.

    Centerfolds always look gre.... Darn,, wrong forum again...
  7. 84far

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    G'day guys,

    Sorry about the delay, and thanks for the comments! The staircase on the starboard would look nice, but the cut out was taking up to much room on the flybridge, and would have to decrease the size of the console. Or increase the flybridge width - then cabin - then hull (effect the performance). Maybe on a bigger boat (the render is a 64'). But I'll second Bill's thoughts, the second lounge is still in play. Also, I haven't taken up any space in the saloon. Teak does looks great, but up to the owner I guess.

    Bill, has some great innovations on his S/F's in regards to the ladder facing the way it is, and also the mezzanine with the freezers separating it from the pit.

    The concept that I did up is simply my interpretation of a modern North Carolina S/F, with Bills signatures (mezzanine is one), and Bill's underwater Specs :D. I tell you what though, N/C stems are hard to get a good one just right!

    We have also, done up a huge 129' S/F (Ranger), the mezzanine lounge area is huge with a bar table over looking the pit, and the pit itself is huge! If there's any interests I can put a render of that up too?

    rcrapps - I've been trying to get Carl to put up "Yacht Forum's" calender girl of the month! :D

    Far
  8. ScrumpyVixen

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    I quite like the back layout on Amokura, simple, useable in rough seas, and lots of lounging space. Less sold on the ladders to the flybridge, but thats just probably something you get used to.

    Amokura Fishing Charters - Lake Macquarie : Cairns : Port Stephens : Sydney
  9. 84far

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    I actually did some work for Martin back in the day, I help build a joint project called Eagle (attached). Anyway, great builder, I still think his best work was Assegai, a little 46'.

    Yeah I've always wondered about those ladders up to the bridge, also height of transom as well. The lounge area is great... I wouldn't say practical, but I think the donks are below it, so that's all they could really do (thats hear say though). I heard they put the motors further back towards the transom...? Cheers

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    Far,

    Great work. What did you start with when you did that render? Simple line drawings or a cad file? Also, do you have a website that shows more of your work?
  11. 84far

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    Thanks mate! I'm a bit old school and start off with a lines drawing (I actually enjoy this part of the design phase), usually consists of a detail profile, and a top view of just the hull lines - sheer/chine/waterline, that's all I really need - then transfer that over to the CAD. Sometimes depending on the size of the boat I'll do a layout as well, which is anything under 100'. As a lot of my work these days consist of 100' and bigger, I usually do the layout on the CAD. The CAD I find really helps with angles and proportions.

    The website is under maintenance at the moment... I hope, cause it hasn't worked for a few days :confused:! But I'm really thinking of starting another website with just the S/F's as I have Lighning Yachts series (44'-78'), and my own series - same size, different look, and few one off designs. The website is mostly the bigger boats. Cheers

    Far
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    Just a couple of changes, I've added a table on the port, and sqeezed in a bar on the starboard. (Day/Night)

    She's looking very practical all of a sudden :D. Cheers

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    Nice work Far!

    I'm not convinced about the table on the mezz. I'd use the space to recline the mezz seat back further.

    Its amazing how many boats have that seat upright ...
  14. Bill106

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    With eight coats of epoxy and 25 coats of UV clear Alexseal it's nearly "plastic" now for all intents and purposes! Usually get at least 5 years of service before needing any attention without a cover and then it's just a quick scuff and spray of an additional coat or two of clear to reset the clock.

    Agree wholeheartedly on repeatable non-skid, it's almost impossible to repair or repaint patterns. I prefer sprayed with particles and "break points" or slick trim lines breaking up larger areas so small repairs won't require complete repaints.

    Maybe we should submit centerfold pics of beautiful yachts with tasteful "ornamentation" to Carl for consideration.
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    +1 on that and start with your beauty Bill!
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    Ahh,, "ornamentation",, That's the word...
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    Alas, all I have right now is one with me in the cockpit and I HOPE Carl doesn't pick it! I'll have to dig through the archives and see if there are more suitable entries. Maiden voyage/sea trial/delivery leaving here for Isla Mujeres Mexico.

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  18. Capt Ralph

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    Fix that Port main before you leave.... Dat Smoke???
  19. Bill106

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    Just a little puff when putting a little lever in rewind to spin around, a late snowbird passing down the ditch just off the bow. We did roll some smoke when we hit the big pond though! Left the dock here about 10 and pulled in to Hilton Head at dusk cruising 40 knots most of the way @ 1975 turns.
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    Really enjoyed reading this thread and have rewritten this post several times as I worked through my thoughts on this issue. For the dedicated angler fishing seriously for billfish the classic sport fisherman layout cannot be bettered. It is probably not wrong to say that every aspect of it has been tweaked intensively over the last 70-odd years. For the casual fisher person, adding rod holders and even outriggers to the motor yacht of his choice seems to be adequate. My feeling is that the law of supply and demand has proved that sportfish manufacturers may be wise to stay true to their roots and do what they do best. Hatteras did make some "yachtfish" models back in the 70s and 80s. If the concept was economically viable they would surely still be doing so today.

    Off topic: Kafue, I've fished a 53 foot Hatteras of the same vintage as yours, with 12V71s, and it was the best fish raising boat I've ever been on. The first blue marlin I saw when fishing on it (just under 600 lbs) popped up about 5 minutes after we started fishing. Your area has some of the world's best fishing for Pacific blue marlin. Take the excitement and adrenaline you feel when hooking a 40 lb mahimahi or a 50 lb wahoo and multiply it by about one hundred and that's what a blue marlin will do to you. When I make my Australia road trip maybe we could give it a go. The sensation of chasing after a fish at speed, I often imagine is somewhat akin to galloping after a steer on the back of a quarter horse. Light tackle is preferred because it's more enjoyable to handle than heavy gear, as every fisherman knows. But the reality of fishing with lighter gear is that when it is hooked to a 200+ lb billfish, you need to go after it with the boat - otherwise your chances are about the same as trying to rope that steer running after it on your own two feet.

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