This thread was started because Shazams thread on the “ pod/Zeus buzz” diverted greatly from that into Sportfish popularity, which interests me because for years I have wondered why the sportfish and pilothouse designers have not learnt more from each other. IMHO, the sport fish needs to re-invent itself for many of the reasons mentioned in Shazams thread. For example, many people who own a SF in Australia (and in the US I guess) are not hard-core fishing people. They enjoy cruising as much as fishing, if not more. My perfect boat is a pilothouse with a large cockpit that I can fish from and go on long trips or just a short weekend. Putting game poles on an Offshore or Ocean Alexander never seemed strange to me. Best of both worlds. Look at the Hatteras Convertible 53 I have now. A 1971 build and it is still the same basic design as a new one. Beside all the massive technology in engines, electronics, hull design (below the waterline) and structural material. Now that either means that Hargrave had it 100% right 45 years ago or that there has been little thought put into adapting the different boating needs into one design. I think Tom Fexas and Nordhavn have tried with their Passage maker/Sport fisher, but the price point is way too high. Simple examples are the fact that U.S. SF have no bow rails. No Pulpits or proper ground tackle. No davits or tenders. No hatches. No opening windows…..this really gets me. Why go out on the water to spend your whole day stuck shut inside an Aircon boat? Sure opening windows leak after 20 odd years, so do the ones in a house, doesn’t mean we seal them up with silicone! Says to me that the builders see no market for these boats for cruising people who fish as well. This may have been true in the past, but now it seems the buyers are not there for dedicated 50’ plus boats. Looking back, there have been amazing SF designs, but I suppose the market demanded what the builders supplied. Could be time for a U turn? Here is an EXTREME example of what must be the perfect marriage of both worlds, if only it had been continued and evolved to different lengths etc: 1984 Huckins Cockpit Motor Yacht Power New and Used Boats for Sale So those brokers sitting on the large SF at the boat shows are saying to the prospective buyers: “This is for the rich, then, if you have the $’s, you must be prepared to run generators all the time, also, it’s only for go fast=plenty of fuel consumption and basically, if you are not into fishing, sitting with your back to the bow watching the wake behind you, or being cooped up in the saloon with the A/C on, this ain’t for you” Where is a designer who can come up with a sport fisher with access to the bow and cockpit, a pilothouse and long range? It is almost there, just look at a Fleming 55 or Offshore , add some hard-core fishing options and a mezzanine etc. AMG? Far? Kajan?