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Teak sole and gunwale/covering boards new install

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  1. Beau

    Beau Senior Member

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    Those are teak covering boards. Way different than the molded glass. Sweet jersey, I wish I had a photo to show you what I mean....I think you would all see what I talking about immediately. The cockpit gunwales are not a flat surface that you just glue or screw a teak plank to.
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    Like the boat in this link? If so, they'd put teak right on top and it would look just fine just like any SF. These are the same gunnels as on the 2001 I used to Manage. Are yours different than the pictures of this cockpit? The extra 3/4" +/- height is there so that all of the water running off of the side decks runs off the side of the boat and doesn't run over the covering board and into the cockpit, most SF have these gunnels and you would put teak covering boards right on top so that the water isn't running into the end grain of the teak. IT will look fine.

    https://www.**************/boats/1993/post-convertible-3654878/
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    Thanks Capt J, yes, like that one. I'll survey the docks for the kind of installation you are describing.... To me that will create an 1 1/2 -2 inch mound from the outside. The raised portion of the gunwale is indented on the outboard side, so there will be a true reference point for your eye.
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    Just wanted to add my 2 cents worth. I have 1992 42’ Ocean. In Jan 2017, I had the teak sanded down, replaced plugs were necessary, 3 coats of epoxy, 4 coats of varnish. Every 3 months, I have a great guy, do a light sand to break thru the topcoat of varnish and reapply a new coat $100. Photo’s are from just having it done on Friday. I believe the teak is original from when the boat was built. Yes, there are a few cracks, but what do you expect from a 28-year-old boat. Teak is approx. ½” thick, crewed down and probably glued down. If you fish/ you do not want to varnish, it like an ice-skating rink when wet and after doing a king fishing tournament, it did not look to good. Leave it as natural as possible. Will probable have to sand down to the epoxy next year and start over. 20200304_153111.jpg 20200304_153139.jpg 20200304_153554.jpg
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    Beautiful, and I think it emphasizes my point. Your teak is fastened to surface not already raised by a glass covering board. Send us some more photos. A lot of Post junkies on this forum.
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    Beau, I am linking below a cockpit photo taken from the ad that CJ linked.
    If your boat is like that, I can't see any additional GRP covering board around the cockpit borders, on top of the deck mould,
    It seems to me that it's all an integral part of the mould, extending forward straight to the walkarounds and all the way to the bow.
    And if this is the case, the last thing I would think of doing is cutting any relevant GRP thickness from the cockpit borders, which are concurrent to the overall boat strength.

    I'm not saying that the boat would split apart if you do that of course, but that's bound to affect the structural integrity to some extent, anyway.
    And that's regardless of the thickness/strength of any teak board which you might put on top afterwards, because no matter how properly installed, they would never become concurrent with the rest of the boat construction, anyway.

    That said, looking also at some other external photos of that boat published in that ad, frankly I don't think that an additional teak covering board added on top would be so bad, from an aesthetic viewpoint.
    Yes, it would create a small step vs. the walkaround of course, but acceptable, also because I don't think it makes sense to go for a huge thickness: half inch as in dewald boat is already good enough, and I wouldn't go above 3/4 anyway.
    Also, if given a choice, I would rather have bare GRP as you already have, because imho that's by far the most practical solution bar none, even if I could have the teak at no additional cost. But you already know that.
    Bottom line, if you fancy a more woody look, my suggestion would be to fit only caulked planks above the cockpit sole, and if you really want the full monty, fit the teak above the existing GRP boards without touching them.
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    I luv wood look. Hate to deal with it.
    But this is the most beautiful, practical, durable, low maintenance and value added cockpit there is.
    It does not get better than this, except maybe a big tuna flopping around.
    KISS

    Oh, back on that big tuna flopping around destroying the wood deck, I sure would pay fright on a tuna steak or two.
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    You don't have the proper camera angle. From the end of the cabin side around the entire cockpit there is a raised glass faux covering board I estimate to be one inch on the rise. You can see a little bit of it in the lower right corner of your first picture, but since the camera angle is downward you're not really getting a sense of the rise and he outboard indentation.
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    There are examples on yachworld of the teak covering board and the glass board on a 50'. For the glass ,look at the 1998 for sale, and for the teak, look at the one out of CT. These illustrate what I am trying desperately to describe. If I knew how to intelligently download the pictures to make it easier I would, but....
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    We are not regular fishers, but will be out when the seasonal runs happen. The "giant" bluefins have been too far off shore for most boats like us lately. Might have to put up with a steak or two from a "football". We'll see what we can do for you. Nice cold water here- no washed out tropical stuff!
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    Below is a photo taken from the ad of the only 1998 Post 50' which I found on YW.
    I highlighted in yellow and circled in red what, as I understand, is the GRP covering board that you have also in your boat.
    Now, if I got that right, are you positive that the yellow thickness (all around the cockpit of course, not just where I highlighted it) is made of a separate board glued upon the GRP mould?
    Based on the photo alone, I would have thought that it is instead embedded in the mould, NOT separate and attached afterwards.
    And if it is structurally embedded in the mould, the concerns in my previous post remains 100% valid.
    Otoh, if it is indeed just an additional board glued on top of the deck structure, then I agree that you could remove it and replace it with teak.
    A job that could only be done over my dead body if she were my boat, but feasible, if you are so inclined.
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    Mapism, I understand you wouldn't do it, and respect your opinion As I've posted several times, its part of the mold as far as I can tell. Its the glass equivalent of teak covering board and cowels.
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    Normally you would put teak right over that, for 2 reasons so any water flow off the side decks hits the fiberglass as usual instead of hammering the teak, AND, if there is any rub rail impact there is fiberglass to absorb the stress and not split the covering boards. IE, you want more structural integrity in that area and not less.
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    Sorry Beau if I previously missed that point.

    But if that additional thickness is indeed part of the mould, it's a mistake to consider it as the equivalent of teak covering boards.
    If anything, you should think of it as the equivalent of a structural board in a wooden boat, i.e. something that is there for integrity first and foremost, and just incidentally it's also elegant to look at.

    Anyway, back to the point: I fully agree with CJ that if you want the wooden look also around the cockpit, you have no other choice than putting boards above the existing grp.

    I can't suggest strongly enough to avoid reducing the existing grp thickness, and walk away from anyone who might tell you it's ok to do that, just in order to please your desire and get to do the job.
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    Thanks all for your input. I let you know if I do something.