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Discussion in 'Yacht Escort Ships & Shadows' started by mwagner1, Sep 20, 2005.

  1. YES!

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    Bill -

    I would be pleased to show your capitano around.

    Make sure he reminds me of your connection so I know who I am talking to. As you know, the boat shows (esp FLL) are manic.

    In the meantime I would be happy to send you some drawings that you can doodle on!

    Thank you for your interest.

    Rgds,

    Stan
  2. Garry Hartshorn

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    Hi Stan

    Hope you have a good show. Looks like a great concept.
  3. Rene GER

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    Is "Paladin Shadow" the ex "LL Shadow"?

    To "Mystere": Is there a different style? or the same like "Paladin"?

    I think so shadow boats will be a very good solution for sailing yachts.
  4. YES!

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    Shadow Marine Debut

    The Paladin Shadow is NOT the old Lady Lola Shadow. LL Shadow is now called Amevi Surprise and chases around a 54 meter Amels named (you guessed?) Amevi.

    The Paladin Shadow is a much improved version of the Shadow concept. She has 2 guest cabins, Flume technology for always active roll stabilization, her interior is a SOLAS poackage and her finish and hull fairing is much more fine. She is a real lady, just more the cow girl style than the New York City-type glizty yachts. She could serve as a yacht herself but the guest cabins are really designed for overflow (mother in law) from the main yacht.

    The Mystere Shadow is the sister ship and in the exact mold of the Paladin Shadow. She is half complete and ready for a new owner to customize her. We are working on mkaing her a dive expedition vessel for 2 separate clients though neither has written a check as of yet.

    Both vessels re 170 feet and can carry their weight in toys, tenders, supplies and helicopters. Extra crew if you need them, a machine shop and unlkimited storage.

    If you have not visited in a while, our web site has been updated with current pictures of the Shadows and even some shots of our new offices in Ft. Lauderdale. If you are in south Florida, make sure to drop in to pick up a Shadow Marine polo shirt and gift bag. Tell them Stan sent you if I am out of the office.

    And you are right on the money - our best clients should be the sailing community to carry extra masts, tenders, rigging, sails, etc. If you know some, pass on the good word.

    All the best,

    Stan
  5. KCook

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    Not to mention TOW ;) ;) :D
  6. YES!

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    Spot on, Kelly! Would you like a job?;)

    Having thought about it a moment, I realized that after 40 years of cruising the high seas I never sea those lovely sailing yachts with the cloth flying. In my mind they have all become twin diesel motor yachts with extremely limited deck space.......making them the best Shadow candidates.
  7. KCook

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    LMAO! :D :D :D
  8. YES!

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    OK, Kelly, I'll be the town fool in public.

    In the ranks of the older computer semi-literate crowd I will ask for all others in their 60's, what the h____ is LMAO?

    I just learned last week the LOL was not Lots of Luck!

    Thx,

    Stan
  9. Kevin

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    LMAO = Laugh My Ass Off

    ROFL = Rolling On the Floor, Laughing
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    lol :)
  11. YachtForums

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    FWIW, (For What It's Worth)... Stan might not spend as much time with computers as we do, but I doubt any of us possess as much knowledge as he does!

    IMHO, (In My Honest Opinion)... he might think Windows are something you stare through, but if you ever stare adversity in the face... you'll want this guy on your side!
  12. KCook

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    IMHO = In My Humble Opinion <with a dash of sarcasm> :D
  13. YES!

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    Kevin - do you have a dictionary of computerese abbreviations and how did the world geekdom arrive at a concensus of teh acronym meanings? I have many varied and much more colorful applications for your alphabet soups.

    Carl is much too kind and Kelly obviously too hard on him. Who are the 'puter police that decide whether it is an "honest" or a "humble" opinion, or h-squared, i.e., both.

    Thank you all for allowing me to glimpse into the now generation.
  14. KCook

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    The Internet is basically anarchy on a worldwide scale. There are no "'puter police". Except the moderators for a message board can delete any post they so deem. Quality and activity level of moderators varies greatly from site to site :D .

    Some more:
    BB = Big Block
    BIL = Brother In Law
    BTW = By The Way
    FWIW = For What It's Worth
    FYI = For Your Information
    GFBL = Go Fast Be Loud
    OT = Off Topic
    SB = Small Block
    SIL = Sister In Law
    SWMBO = She Who Must Be Obeyed
    TBD = To Be Determined

    It goes on and on. Some had their origins in the alphabet soup the military loves so much.

    Kelly
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    I'm not sure on the terminology myself, but I think both "Humble and Honest" are accepted interpretations. The acronyms I'm most familar with are FBO, TCA, VFR, IFR, etc... but it's been years since I've used 'em.

    Getting back to Shadows... Stan, can I get your autograph? I saw you interviewed on the Discovery Channel. Who knew we had a movie star onboard! ;)
  16. YES!

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    Carl -

    I would be honored to autograph your contract as you become the first owner of the Paladin Shadow.

    You had better be quick because the sharks are circling - no bites yet but there is blood in the water.

    Keep up the great work, young man!
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    LOL :D

    Stan, in the pics of Paladin Shadow that were first posted here, what's the boat on the trailer outside? That's looks like all sorts of fun!
  18. YES!

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    On the port aft deck of Paladin Shadow is a 28 foot Potector RIB with 2 X 225 HP Yamaha 4 Strokes.

    Starboard aft is the "Liberty", a 38 foot Eliminator offshore racing boat with 2 X 650 HP Mercs.

    Both move out pretty well.
  19. Rene GER

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    I like the concept of a shadow boat very much, but the design is not the best in my eyes, because I think, a shadow boat is a part of the main yacht. Does anyone have an idea to another design? Lars, I think it's your part ;)

    To Stan: What is your business concept? Are you building the shadow boats and sell the vessels or is it for charter?

    Reg. f. the very cold Germany,

    René
  20. YES!

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    Rene' -

    Our concept is to use the great volume and cargo capacity of older commercial vessels, refit them to current standards, and then be able to market them as yacht support vessels for far less than it would cost to build the same vessel brand new.

    These are over 900 ton displacement ships of steel with commercial machinery that is very easy to access (lots of room), straightforward to repair (functional design concepts - not like yachts) and can cross the oceans of the world forever. There is so much room compared to a yacht that it is hard to imagine until you see it. And to purchase a completely refit and converted 170 foot vessel with a 6 month warranty for less than USD $10million is a great value.

    You are right, Rene', they are not so easy on the eye. We call the Shadows "ruggedly handsome", but to know them is to love them. I compare them to the SUVs and Hummer vehicles in the US. They are not sleek or elegant; but they are safe, seaworthy and get the job done.

    We have been approached by many to charter Paladin Shadow, but that is an entirely different business - to hire crews then have crews trained to operate the Shadow and then have the vessel outfitted in a way that everyone would like. A charter rate has been established at USD $125,000 per week and if the postive interest continues, we may start chartering next summer in the Med with at least one boat.

    We believe it is better and safer for a yachtsmen to have a smaller yacht so he can get into St. Tropez and Portofino with beautiful clear decks and without jets skis, kayaks, and tenders everywhere - keeping his Shadow at anchor with the helicopter, submarine, racing boats, etc., etc on board. And if you empty the hangar, it is the best party room in the world. The Shadow can be a tow boat, a passage finder, and fuel barge and a grocery store.

    Think of the savings to build a 60 meter and have a Shadow boat instead of building a 75 meter so he/she can hang all of the toys and tenders still taking up valuable yacht real estate.

    If you send me you email address I will send you our slideshow in case you have not seen the Paladin Shadow photos.

    I participate in the Forum because many people with different perspectives and experiences come up with great ideas and new concepts. It is always good to hear other views and opinions.

    The great thing about "taste" and "class" - you don't have to be rich to have the best of both.

    Regards,

    Stan