Thx, I guess. Never thought of it that way. I only flew jumbos at 480 knots, on a good day. Not sure how fast you were going in the F-4 fighters? Mach 2.2? Hat off to you Sir, nowadays I get dizzy at 10 knots and again, if some some lazy or stupid so called Captain left the bridge and tried to sink my boat and kill me and my family on auto pilot, I would get grumpy. I would turn away early however, not sure why anybody is arguing about that?