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Discussion in 'Props, Shafts & Seals' started by Dhowdodger, Jun 10, 2006.

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  1. VikHatBer

    VikHatBer New Member

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    I'll have to ask around about the new Micron 66. If it works as good or better, which it claims to, I would be a sponsor of it, and convince my friends in the industry to do so. However, it takes a lot to change the mids of old timers like me who have seen a bunch of "new wonder paints" try to take the place of TBT but fail miserably.

    If you ask me, the old Micron 44 from the 80's and 90's was like the "Viagra" of antifouling paints. Now that the "Viagra" mixture is illegal -- though probably not 100% out of production, there is a lot of the new crap that is advertized as a replacement is nothing more than a "wonder paint". Only time will tell.

    Have a good one...
  2. Codger

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    Thanks all, for the updates.
    The legalities aside, I wouldn't even consider a project if I had to use materials that would cause further damage to what was once a beautiful and fairly clean waterway. Sailed from Montreal to Kingston in the mid 60s on a 22 footer. Lots of diversions and places to be diverted to. Crossing to and fro across the border in those days was a much different proposition from the realities of today, as long as all the booze bottle aboard were unsealed and not for resale.:) Still a soft spot in me for the seaway.


    How do these paints hold up to pressure washers? If the current crop of products will keep the beasties from taking up residence for a couple of years then sending out a crew of divers to wash it all down every second summer doesn't sound like an unreasonable option.
  3. T.K.

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    Does anyone have any experience with the Interlux product, Trilux 33? I should be antifouling my boat next week and this product was offered to me.
  4. C4ENG

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    K1, Do you know how the TBT effects the environment? Or what it is doing for the governments to want it banned?
  5. K1W1

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    Hi,

    The long and the short is the goodies that kill everything that tries to grow on your boat leech off into the water and kill the basic structures of the food chain causing particular problems to filter feeders which cover shellfish and many crustaceans.

    I have sent you a PM with a link to an article to read.
  6. Capt J

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    Add 16 ounces of Cayenne pepper to each gallon of bottom paint and you'll be really surprised how effective it is.
  7. Fishtigua

    Fishtigua Senior Member

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    Tbt

    A couple of years ago I was still able to buy TBT (cattle anti-biotic) in Venezuela pretty much off the shelf, there is an aweful lot of cattle in South America.

    In Puerto la Cruz, where we were, the canals have terrible hard bi-valve growth so the hull was fine but nothing seemed to work on the sterngear. Most of the time we sent a diver down once a week to keep it clean.
  8. K1W1

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    Hi,

    I have also been told many years ago that Arsenic in similar quantities does a good job.

    Fishtigua- Are you getting confused between Tropical Bont Tick often referred to as TBT in Veterinary Publications as seen here:

    http://www.fao.org/Ag/Magazine/0205sp1.htm

    and Tri Butyl Tin often referred to as TBT in Marine Publications as seen here?:

    http://www.mbhs.edu/departments/magn...i/stephen.html
  9. Capt J

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    Yeah except I wouldn't mind splattering a little paint with Cayenne pepper on my hands. I don't think I'd want to have anything to do with arsenic

    Also Propspeed works very well. However if you have any electrolysis issues, it will boil it right off in a month or two (along with any other coating on running gear). I prefer Trilux on running gear if the vessel cruises under 20 knots and propspeed if it cruises over 20 knots.
  10. sblunden

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    Trilux 33

    A little late replying, but I use Trilux outdrive paint on my running gear. Our season is short and the water is cold, though, up in New England. Little or no fouling last year.
  11. veggie_burger

    veggie_burger New Member

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    speed prop really works

    Been using Prop Speed for 6 years now, nearly zero growth but then we spend half the time in fresh water and turn the props at least once a week. I have used hot pepper sauce as a kid on crawfish boats on the Miami River (our trap numbers were single digit) for good measure Capt. used to urinate in the bottom paint that went on the props and rudders and hull. Hot Sauce came from supermarket and was one bottle per gallon. Man do I miss Micron 44. Just hire a diver for once a month. Pays for it'self in fuel quickly.
  12. Codger

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  13. Bamboo

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    Sea Slide & Prop Speed

    I've got two gallons of Sea Slide on order- and it'll be going on my boats bottom shortly. Capt J has posted he's driven a boat with the product- anyone else? I've got Prop Speed (ps) on the shafts and props- and it's been said you should not apply more over the PS that is already on. Anyone tried to put more on top of existing PS? I've not seen it on trim tabs- anyone use it there?
  14. Capt J

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    I've seen propspeed applied to rudders but can't say I've seen it on trim tabs personally. I wouldn't put more then one coat of prop speed on. I would like to know your speed numbers after you put the sea slide on.
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    nice to see everyone playing nice !
    does this work in fresh water?
    what's the trade name? i can't seem to find it
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  17. Bamboo

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    Goes on the bottom tomorrow, Tuesday I may get out the inlet and do a sea trial. No additional prop speed as I thought did not really need it, and at over $600 for my shafts and props I left them alone. After one year's use they were quite clean, and they appeared to be coated enough to leave it alone.
  18. Bamboo

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    Here's a few pics- goes back in the water shortly. :) Props static balanced and so no real need for high speed balance, plus that meant stripping the prop speed off which is one year old and still looked good. Previous high speed balance did not need to be redone is my thought. Report to follow sometime next week.
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  19. Capt J

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    Spray a little water on the bottom paint with a hose and then run your hand across it. You'll be surprised how slippery it is.
  20. Fishtigua

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    Flogging a Dead Horse

    Ok, an old thread but I've got a question.

    When chatting to our new yard carpenter, whom I've known for a while and trust, mentioned that his friend's Dad had just applied a new product to his sterngear.

    It was bought in the US and is a 3-part rubberised/plastisied coating put on to the screws and rudders.

    Like all carpenters, he said he would call me later with the answer. Still waiting.

    Do any of you lot know of this product??? I've never heard of the system.

    Thanks

    Fish