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Rumor? EIAPP required to clear customs in 2022

Discussion in 'General Yachting Discussion' started by Pascal, Jun 11, 2021.

  1. Pascal

    Pascal Senior Member

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    This is why the first word in the thread title is “Rumor”... yea it appears to be a rule but I haven’t found anything suggesting CBP will be enforcing the requirement.
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    "Diesel engines above 130 kW installed on vessels not required to obtain an IAPP certificate must also be covered by EIAPP certificates if you will operate your vessel outside the United States or in a foreign port or waters. You should plan to obtain an EIAPP certificate on a similar schedule as outlined above for obtaining an IAPP certificate."

    Is this not true or somehow not true for 2022 or subsequently removed?
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    I think your "Rumor" repeat is well advised. I know how the document is written, but haven't heard anything about it being enforced or how it will be done on any existing boats. Likewise, as Ken points out, I strongly suspect Norseman's boat fits in the group of engines supplied before the cutoff. A lot of keels laid and engines put in boats before each new Tier of regulation along the way.
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    From the above PDF;

    "Although only vessels above 400 gross tons are required to obtain an IAPP certificate under MARPOL Annex VI, owners of all vessels that operate outside the United States or in a foreign port or waters are required to have an EIAPP certificate for each installed diesel engine above 130 kW. Although it is possible to enter the port or waters of a foreign state that has not ratified Annex VI without an EIAPP certificate, it is strongly recommended that all vessels expecting to operate in these locales obtain an EIAPP certificate."
  5. Norseman

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    Going International Odin is included. I will attempt to comply with the law, within
    reason.
  6. Ken Bracewell

    Ken Bracewell Senior Member

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    You certainly won't have any issue in the Bahamas.
    When we sold BERILDA I was specifically advised by our Flag State that we were exempt.
  7. Norseman

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    Yes, but did she have the original engines from 1978?

    It seems like my boat falls within the framework of the affected vessels, but only if I go International, which I have done in the past and plan to continue doing.

    I already wrote Yanmar today and will call them tomorrow.
  8. Norseman

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    Yanmar was very quick responding to yesterday’s email, wow…

  9. Norseman

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    EPA requires the destruction of a Yanmar 6LP-STE, same as the one in my boat.
    Check out this video how they destroy the block. (Pure madness) :mad:
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    WTF? No cert for you?
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    Ha, not sure what the deal is, these engines are quite modern and efficient (or was)
    4 valves per cylinder, overhead camshaft, common rail, etc.
    No idea why the EPA want to destroy them, and sure enough, I may not get the Emission Certificate after all, unless grand fathered by an act of Congress.
    Dear Santa…:confused:

    Here is the specs. (6LPA is the same engine, except it is built in the US, hence the A instead of just 6LP)
    http://simplicity-marine.com/pdf/Yanmar/6LPP.pdf
  12. Norseman

    Norseman Senior Member

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    Maybe there is a God:
    Got this certificate from Yanmar today,
    48013F01-FE8A-4D9B-96BE-C1D1B229D29B.png
  13. olderboater

    olderboater Senior Member

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    And was it free?
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    OK...hold the phone. WHAT reg makes one retroactively destroy an engine? I'm not finding anything on that.......
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    Norseman Senior Member

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    Yes, free…:cool:
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    The Yanmar engine, if it blows up, can only be replaced with a similar engine IF the old engine is being destroyed.
    No idea how, or why, or what rule…Your tax money at work.:confused:
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    I have 2013 Volvo D13 engines on my boat. In my warranty for Volvo it says

    Manufacturer’s warranty coverage
    AB Volvo Penta warrants to the original owner, and to each subsequent owner, of a new diesel engine that the emission control system of your engine:
    1. Was designed, built and equipped so as to conform at the time of sale with all applicable regulations of the
    U.S. Environmental Protection Agency and of the Califor- nia Air Resources Board.

    I called Volvo Penta in Virginia for a EIAPP certificate. They had no idea what I was talking about other then to say their engines have been approved by the EPA as meeting all their requirements. Does anybody have any experience with Volvo in getting any needed certificate from Volvo or am I worrying about nothing?
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    THAT I can see. But this was, allegedly, a perfectly good running engine being destroyed......
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    Either they are jerking you around or they have no clue.
  20. yr2030

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    Your boat engines just jumped up in value.
    chesapeake46 and Capt Ralph like this.