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Riva 63 Virtus - Was it good? Any owner reviews out there?

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  1. CapChristian

    CapChristian New Member

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    One of my favourite Rivas is the 63 Virtus. The combination of a day crusier and ability to host quite a few people and guests (not to mention a tender) is pretty unbeatable in my mind. Not to mention it is really beautiful.

    When googling the Riva there aren't that many hits. Some articles and reviews when it was released and some ads online for used 63 Virtuses, but nothing more.
    Riva has ceased to make the model so one wonders if it was popular?
    If not, what was wrong with it?

    And are there any owners/previous owners that can give a verdict on how the boat is?
  2. olderboater

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    We own a Vertigo. It's basically a Virtus with a top, so a coupe vs. an open. We love it. Great performance as WOT is just over 40 knots and cruise around 35 knots. Ironically, we own two Riva's and both have now been discontinued. Ours were both purchased in 2012 so not terribly surprising. I think the 66' Ribelle, a sportfly (flybridge more for sunning than riding) fits a demand, even if it's a bit slower.

    Riva is pretty much shuffling their entire lineup. Every model above 40' is rather new, within the last several years. So, I don't think any of it reflects on specific models. It could reflect fewer total sales than desired or simply a feeling they must constantly refresh. Remember when the life of auto models was 3 years or so, then they were changed significantly?

    The Virtus is a great riding and performing boat based on our experience with the Vertigo.

    Riva is building more flybridge models and pushing sizes up. I find much of that though as moving away from their heritage and what we bought Riva's for. We wanted to cruise at 30 knots plus with traditional shafts and a good ride. We got that. I think they are losing that appeal with some of their new models. Perhaps though with fuel prices in Europe, that market is shrinking.
  3. Capt J

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    Riva's biggest problem and especially with flybridge boats in the United States and Central America market is the draft. It's always 1' deeper than other comparable boats.
  4. CapChristian

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    Thanks for the great response. Glad to hear you are happy with your Vertigo!

    In your experience, how does it handle with yourself at the helm? Is a Captain necessary or can one handle it by your own?
    Perhaps outfitted with Raymarines new DockSense system, it should be easy?
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    Speaking of draft; why are height above waterline almost never mentioned when searching for specs on boats of this size? Not all of us live out by the open sea, bridges are a thing that need to be passed from time to time. :)
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    I agree. A few builders publish it but most do not. I think because most yachts are not sold with pre-installed electronics from the manufacturer and that can change the height, I really do not know. What's even worse is I run 100 different yachts a year, and nowhere is the actual yachts height published on the dashboard or anywhere of that yacht.
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    Most builders can easily supply drawings which show the air draft but don't publish that information routinely. One additional problem is those who publish it without electronics when they have two large domes on top of the hardtop or the arch. Not only does it need to be listed, but needs to indicate what is included in the calculation.
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    It is easily handled by two. I would not want to single hand it. The Virtus, being open, would be a little easier but then I don't endorse single handing any boat that size. You ask if a captain is necessary, but my wife and I are both captains. I'd say just experienced operators.

    Initially, it's a bit like parking the old Pontiac Firebirds with the low seats and very long hoods and figuring out where the front really is, but you soon get use to it. Similarly, if you're use to slower, less responsive boats, you must adjust to it's responsiveness. You learn to use it's power rather than allow it to work against you.

    Every boat has it's own characteristics.
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    Good points.
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    Thank you. Very helpful information. There are a few Virtus'es for sale. I will look into them. I'll let y'all know if I end up buying one!
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    Oh, by the way, I forgot to ask; the tender garage at the back; how large is it? More specifically, would you recon one could fit a Sea Doo PWC into it? Or is the engine room surrounding it large enough to fit a expanded garage?

    I guess one could have a PWC on the bathing platform but it would be much better having it in a tender garage.
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    It holds an Avon 330 Seasport or a Williams 325, both jet tenders. That is what it is designed to accommodate.
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    Well Capt J if you ever get the pleasure to run my boat, lol, I put the clearance measurement on my dash; Ants up-24'; Ants-Dwn 18'. the calculation being the antennas are my highest point , with them down it's the radar and anchor light ; at 18' I need anything above that to make it through.
    19' was my personal lowest actual pass through.

    I suppose you carry , or could, a good old 25' tape measure to through over the side from the bridge to the water and same for the topside stuff measure from the bridge up to your highest electronic antenna or whatever to get a better idea of your clearance.

    It really should be a major part of the spec sheet ; like '' factory clearance height -- ft.; additional electronics etc. not included'' or something to that affect.
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    The problem is, should carry this/this/this. If I carried everything I should carry, I'd have a 60lb sack of tools and parts......LOLOL, usually I eyeball it at the first bridge that looks like a no go and can guestimate fairly well from there.
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    I wish my tools and parts were as light as that!
    Sometimes I wonder how faster the boat could go, should I jettison all that stuff overboard... :)
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    Oh yeah...bump it forward, coast, stick you head out from under the boat's bridge top look, bump it again...coast up, look, be ready like hell to throw them both in reverse..LOL. I might have done that before from my 42' boat down to my CC Dory. :D
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    I run a lot of different yachts. Most of them have a good assortment of tools and spare parts, if not I usually bring my own. But, in my Captains bag that I take from boat to boat, I can only carry so much crap.