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Reviews of different Hatteras yachts for live aboard?

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  1. patch

    patch New Member

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    We got our live-a-board today

    We signed a contract today on a 54' Hatteras. I found my ideal boat and the deal I was looking for. The present owner has owned it for 10 years and has spent over twice what I paid for it in upgrades. Most of them less that 5 years ago.
    The only neg I can see is the fuel cost, but we don't plan but putting over 100 hrs a year.
    Does anyone know what a 54 with two 8V92's will burn at hull spead?
    Thanks
    Glenn
  2. Pascal

    Pascal Senior Member

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    Should burn about 10 to 12 gph at 9 / 9.5 kts. Bump it up an extra knot and your flow will almost double
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    Fuel Burn

    With the price of fuel here in the Bahamas, probably worth installing Flow scan meters in the boat if it doesn't have them already
    Glenn
  4. SeaEric

    SeaEric YF Historian

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    About a year ago I represented the sale of a 1991 Hatteras 52' Cockpit Motor Yacht. She was powered with the same 8v92's. The seller of that boat had cruised her extensively in the Bahamas and had the fuel burn down to a science. He would occasionally slow cruise her on one engine at 9 knots and burn 12 GPH. Slow cruise on 2 engines was 10 knots and 20 GPH.

    When we did the sea trial for the survey we ran her up and she was doing 18 knots. Not sure of the RPM but the flow scans said we were burning 65 GPH. Yikes.

    I hope this info helps, and as always - Your mileage may vary.
  5. patch

    patch New Member

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    is 54 Hatteras considered floating condo

    I have read a lot about about Boat Manufacturers going to floating Condo's because of Wife's desire for more room.
    Is a 54 Hat considered a "Floating Condo" or is it a good offshore boat.
    GP
  6. aircar

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    Need advice on Hatteras 61 MY

    I have a purchase agreement countersigned by the seller, subject to sea trial and survey on 61 Hatteras MY. It has 12V71s. It has Sidepower SP 125T bow thruster. The largest powerboat I have handled before is 46 feet. This is going to be a live aboard boat for me, but I am a little intimidated by the size of the boat. I'm concerned about backing into slips, the size of the bow thruster, and of course the fuel burn of these engines. Hard to find a fuel sipping trawler with the living accomodations of this boat. Any thoughts about this boat.
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    dennismc Senior Member

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    Liveaboard

    I jumped from 36 to 70 in one leap, the bigger the boat, usually the easier to handle, take your time and enjoy the learning curve, won't take long.
  8. Beau

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    Same with me. I went from a 33 Egg Harbor to a 50 Post. The Post backs itself in!
  9. NYCAP123

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    In my estimation 46' brings you into a different class; more complicated systems, more responsible operation and maintenance. 70' is towards the top end of that class. So it's not such a big jump. I consider 30' to 46' a bigger leap. The fact is that the larger vessel has more predictable handling characteristics. The size is just an intimidation factor. You'll get past that fast enough.
  10. Capt J

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    If you run them at 1000 rpm's you'll burn less than 15 gph total including genset at probably 9-10 knots, then every 4-6hrs you have to run them up to cruise for 1/2 an hour to clean them out.....and you'll probably see 18 knots and 80gph........So you can get down to close to trawler efficiency.....
  11. Pascal

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    It's not about the size, it s about the layout. With a lower helm and side doors you re just a few steps from yr spring lines. Also the Hatt weight And hull shape make it less susceptible to winds unlike a 40 something flat bottomed boat

    Bow thruster is irrelevant when backing into a slip so don't worry about it...

    The only challenge when backing into a slip is visibility. Your best option would-be a set of stern control or a stern camera with a flat screen at the lower helm

    As long as you properly handled the 46 you ll find the large haft easy to handle, once you get past the "oh s--t this thing is big" factor

    Now if you ve been handling the 46 as if it was a small run about then your learning curve may be steep. By that i mean jumping on the dock before the boat is tied up, not Using springs, etc.
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    Yachtcontroller now has capability to handle hynautic and other mechanical controls. I was looking at it for my 1989 Hatteras 60MY
  13. BennyHall

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    Costs to own a 58-75' Hatteras MY

    A friend recently took us out on his 60' Hatteras MY. It was sweet! In my opinion it's ultimate toy that brings family and friends together. Since then, I've been doing a lot of research on them.

    From what I can gather, unless you have millions to spend, it's probably best to go with a really well built older model such as 80's era Hatteras. They seem to have the best reputation in this category for their quality construction, and ease to locate parts.

    I'm curious what it will cost to own and properly maintain one of these boats. On yachtworld.com there seems to be some great ones in the $200-$400k range. So, after the initial expense, we'll obviously have to maintain the boat, and I'm curious what that will cost. Obviously, this could vary greatly depending on the actual boat chosen.

    From what I've read, a good unbiased surveyor report is an absolute must before making this decision, and I've read some great articles on how to properly do that. How much does the survey cost? Then negotiating the deal, and getting everything in writing, and closing the deal comes next. If service needs to be done, make sure it's at a reputable place that does the job right.

    Gas:
    9 knots = about 10-15 Gallons/Hr
    Every 4.5 hrs = 18 knots for 30 minutes = 65 gallons
    Conclusion = approximately 130 gallons every 5 hours of running.
    I read somewhere that overhauling each diesel motor will be required every 1500 hours or so costing approximately $12,000 per motor.
    Norwalk, CT docking fees???

    What else can I expect to have thrown at me?
    I'm 30 years old, with two young boys, so I'm not in a big hurry. But, I've been fairly successful in my career, and want a Hatteras one day to relax with famly and friends in the summer on Long Island Sound.
    Any insight would be appreciated......Thanks!
  14. Pascal

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    Survey? Figure $2500 for both hull and diesel surveys, Incl a short haul to inspect the hull and running gear

    Fuel, you will average no more than 15gph at 9kts incl a short hop on plane

    Dockage varies, you re better calling around. In so fl we re at $1200 to $1400 a month for a 60 footer on an annual contract.

    Other costs?

    Bottom paint every 2 year, figure $3000

    Insurance... Depends but up north I d budget $4000 a yr

    Maintenance: if the boat is in good condition and you dona lot of the simple stuff yourself, $10k a year if you re somewhat lucky and don't have any major failures.

    Engine overhaul? On the V8 Detroit common in these boats, closer to 20k a piece but more likely every 2500 hrs if properly maintained and operated

    If the boat has V12s, add another 10k each

    Again these are ball park numbers, it depends on the condition of the boat, your abilities, and if you can find reliable and reasonable mechanics, air con tech, etc
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    Very close, but your maintanence figure is off. If you pay someone to do everything you're looking at 40-50k a year. You have to figure that a paint job last 12 years, a/cs will need to be replaced along the way, appliances, oil change/service every year is $2k, engines if they're 71 series they'll go a minumum of 3500 hours if taken care of. Fuel figures are close. 12v71's will burn 80 gph at cruise 90gph at a fast cruise 2050rpms to clean them out worst case scenario. 8v71's you're looking at 50gph at cruise. I averaged 1.5 GPNM on a 5300NM trip on a 75' Hatteras running mostly 10knots, this included running a generator non stop including many overnight anchorages.

    I would say the 58' MY (or larger) with the galley up would be a much more comfortable choice compared to a 53'. Keeping the galley up, is on the same level as dinette and dining room table, it keeps noise and food smells out of the cabins, and it's more convenient to be watching tv in the salon and to pop into the galley to grab a coke. Also there are only 2 levels the upper and lower and a flat floor.....instead of stepping 4 steps down into the galley area and then another few steps to the cabin level hallways.
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    Patch,it being 2014, don't know if you have bought anything yet, but there is a Hatt on the market in your price range, (and no, I'm not a broker) it's an 80 foot cockpit....I wanna say a 98? vintage that's been completely redone bow to stern, and it's offered in your price range. It's been listed by a couple of different brokers, but her name is "Bama Breeze" I looked long and hard at it and would be a great "turn key" boat for someone like you. Best of Luck.
  17. wazoo111

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    I looked online for Bama Breeze and could only find charter sites for the boat. Do you know is this is the same boat? Do you know of a website where it is listed for sale or what brokerage is handling the sale and the price? Thanks for you help.
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    Here it is.

    1990 Hatteras CPMY Power Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com
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    Hi wazoo...Yep...that's her...and she really is for sale. She originally was offered with a 25 foot center console, with a factory installed tow ring. I know that it's being offered on a Charter basis. But contact the Broker and let them know your intentions. I took a long hard look at her and she is the best Hatt of that vintage on the market....the Owner has spent a LOT of money on her over the last year to bring her up to date.