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Prop Shaft Diameter

Discussion in 'Chris Craft Roamer Yacht' started by biodon, Nov 12, 2009.

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  1. biodon

    biodon New Member

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    This is all great input. Thank you!

    Getting rid of the reduction gear would make engine fitment easier, but it's looking like reduction is necessary for the props (probably larger props)to run efficiently.

    The Borg Warmer manual does say not to use reverse gear to compesate for engine rotation. Whether I could get away with ignoring that advice is still an open question in my mind. Isn't that how they did it in the '63 with 6.2 diesels?
  2. Capt J

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    You're definately going to want a reduction. I would guess around 2:1, but speaking with a good propeller shop and engine shops would get you the best advice. The counter rotation is done in the gear, and I would recommend having your port engine turn in an opposite direction of your starboard engine for both efficiency and maneuverability. Another possibility is mounting your engines backwards and using v-drives and might work better with the space constraints you have
  3. Bamboo

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    I worked at the Viking Service Center Riviera Beach (as mechanic/captain) for three years ending in '04. The largest shaft at that time was 3 1/2 for the 1800-2000 HP engines. 1400-1800 had the 3 inch shafts. 1100-1400 had 2 3/4, and under that was 2 1/2's. Non-splined aquamet 22 IIRC. Alignments were with "string" and we did literally hundreds of strut replacements. My Roscioli/Donzi has 1500HP and has 4 inch shafts- but it's believed to be overkill as Bob R. likes to "overbuild". I have little experience with smaller stuff however.
  4. dsharp

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    You cannot reverse rotation in the 71C or 72C Borg warners by running 1 in forward and 1 in reverse like a Twin Disc gear. There are only 2 friction discs in the reverse clutch pack. There are 6 or 7 friction discs in the forward clutch pack. They did make a 1.97 to one that reversed in the box and the 2.1 to one did not reverse. That is how they got the counter rotating props with same rotation engines. That was the only ratio available.
  5. biodon

    biodon New Member

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    That is a really helpful tip, both on why to not run a transmission in reverse, and how to get by with 2 like-turning engines.

    So, the best case scenario is you have slightly different final drive ratios and one motor turning a little faster than the other to synch both props.
  6. pascal bertram

    pascal bertram New Member

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    I got the same probleme with my bertram and got no choice i live in thailand and for going to a descent shipyard i got to go around malaysia via singapoor 2000 miles as no tecnicien i got to replace my 1 3/4inche 316 stainless shaft by much more strong but of the same diameter. my engine twin detroit diesel -71 325hp and i want to used 28 inche propellers
    May be also the cutlass bearing will allowed me a small increase???????????
    thanks for your help and advice
    if you know where to buy those shaft in asia you are great
    kind regards

    pascal
  7. Henning

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    Stone Marine in Singapore and Rogers & Lough in Brisbane come to mind.
  8. Savasa

    Savasa Senior Member

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    Greetings,
    I was under the impression that my BIL's 6-71s ran in opposite directions and a neighbors "flat" Perkins (sorry, don't know model #'s) did so as well.
    Peter
  9. biodon

    biodon New Member

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    Yes the 2 cycle 6-71 can counter rotate.

    I don't think that's an option for the newer Cummins.