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PILOT HOUSE DESIGN FOR VINTAGE 62ft FEADSHIP

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which Pilot House desihn suits Alto best

Poll closed Mar 16, 2010.

  1. traditional design with 2 side windows and eyebrow that match the saloon windows

    11 vote(s)
    34.4%

  2. more glamourous 1960's style design with a single large side window that emulates the original open

    21 vote(s)
    65.6%
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  1. Henning, Mar 7, 2010
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    http://www.yachtforums.com/forums/v2images/editor/attach.gif

    No, leading edge of the eyebrow is forward, the trailing edge is aft.

    Here's a really rough sketch, the circle is the pipe for the fresh water rinse.

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  2. david_japp, Mar 7, 2010
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    I still dont get it ...what purpose does it achieve?
  3. Henning, Mar 7, 2010
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    It vents pressure when you are taking wind and waves in the face and prevents damage. Not required, just a finishing touch.
  4. david_japp, Mar 7, 2010
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    an Interesting thought...but I imagine it would make the construction quite a bit more complicated...where would it vent to?

    is it going to have a ny real beneficial effect on a boat that has a max speed of 12 knts? the forward eyebrow doesn't have a vent and being further forward and lower, is probably more susceptible to green water from wind and waves etc... ?
  5. Henning, Mar 7, 2010
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    A bit more complex, not much, but it's a Feadship, so the fine points are a bit expected. It vents over the cabin top. The benefit is to give wind and water somewhere to go so it doesn't get driven into a corner. It also gives rain water being flung up there an escape and provides ventilation to help it dry out and prevent rot. I often see deteriorated joints there in wood houses, this would help prevent that. While the boat may only go 12 kts, add that to a 30 kt head wind and it makes a difference.
  6. SHAZAM, Mar 7, 2010
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    Single window, without the brow.
  7. 84far, Mar 22, 2010
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    Hi,

    Looks like you have a nice job in front of you ;). For what it's worth I just did some small mods to the bottom window (third profile down) to see how she looks with both windws changed. Cheers

    Far

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  8. david_japp, Mar 22, 2010
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    thanks - Im not sure that works -in any evnt it cant be done easily 'cos the aft saoon BH is pretty much hard up against the aft end of the aft window, so all the windows would have to be repositioned and changed which would mean rebuilding both sides of the saloon
  9. david_japp, Nov 2, 2013
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    TIKY (ex Alto Volante) vintage 62ft Feadship restoration . Pilot House design

    after much tooth sucking (and sleepless nights) I eventually decided on fitting an all white PH structure with a single side window that matched the "swept" sports-car design of the window on the open helm that she originally had.

    Having built the PH I then decided the "swept" window looked wrong and changed it to match the rounder shaped windows of the teak superstructure and I also added a mullion. Here it is ....the boat has still a way to go before launch, but I think the PH looks wonderful.

    Incidentally, the aft screen of the PH consists of 2 electrically operated windows that disappear into the aft island lockers and 2 teak doors that can be entirely removed and stowed in the aft seat . That way the PH can be entirely closed off in inclement weather or when laid up, or entirely opened up so as to open-plan on to the aft deck.

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  10. RER, Nov 2, 2013
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    Most impressive. I think you brought certain original design details into the new structure beautifully.
  11. david_japp, Nov 2, 2013
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    TIKY (ex Alto Volante) VINTAGE - FEADSHIP

    thank you for your kind words - as with most things, the design of the PH was a compromise between wanting a practical solution for Mediterranean use (where it's either too hot or too wet) and keeping faith with her original design, which although stylish, I thought made her look more of a river boat, rather than a powerful seagoing motor-yacht , which she most certainly is . In any event it's is certainly an improvement on the boxy 1980s PH she had when I found her in Spain

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  12. david_japp, May 3, 2014
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    Vintage feadship "tiky" - new pilothouse design

    here some Youtube clips taken on launch day - sorry about poor quality but it was cold grey and very rainy day!
    TIKY videos launch day at Foxs 1st May 2014 IMG 0496 1 - YouTube

    TIKY videos launch day at Foxs 1st May 2014 IMG 0496 2 - YouTube

    TIKY videos launch day at Foxs 1st May 2014 IMG 0496 3 - YouTube

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    TIKY videos launch day at Foxs 1st May 2014 IMG 0496 7 - YouTube

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    TIKY videos launch day at Foxs 1st May 2014 IMG 0496 7 - YouTube

    TIKY videos launch day at Foxs 1st May 2014 IMG 0496 9 - YouTube
  13. Rene GER, May 3, 2014
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    WOW! She is a really beautiful classy yacht. Congrats :)
  14. david_japp, Jul 11, 2014
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    62ft Vintage Feadship TIKY (ex Alto Volante) new Pilothouse design

    After many different suggestions and much head scratching, this is what we built. Curiously enough it's almost exactly as per my original sketches. Despite the temptation to built in teak with a traditional 1950s look, I went with my instinct to keep it white, clean and unfussy. Im thrilled with the result.

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  15. david_japp, Jul 11, 2014
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    Feadship new Pilothouse

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  16. 84far, Jul 13, 2014
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    David, she's looking gorgeous. One thing... is she getting a bootstripe...? She use to have a twin royal blue stripes which finished her off nicely (bottom one thick, top thin)? Cheers

    Far
  17. david_japp, Jul 14, 2014
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    Tiky bootstripe

    Thank you. Yes, when I bought her she did have a boot stripe as you describe but it wasn't completely correct and parallel to the water. We still weren't 100% sure about her floatation line and trim after the refit so we estimated the position and thankfully got it more less right but it still needs slight adjustment, especially at the stern, which is always a tricky area to get right with cruiser stern such as Tiky's. When she next comes out the water - probably not till next year - we will be doing various things, including adjusting the props slightly (so as to have more pitch and use the Engines' HP more efficiently), adding an additional skin fitting (so as to have the option of allowing the washing machine and dishwasher to drain directly overboard instead of only draining to the GW tanks and then overboard, as at present) and finally correcting the waterline by giving her a boot stripe .
  18. 84far, Jul 14, 2014
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    Really, so still plenty to go before she's finally finished. well at least she's in the water looking the part. Will you go for the same colour combo in the bootstripe or different colour...? Cheers

    Far
  19. david_japp, Jul 14, 2014
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    no ...not much more to do and none of the items I mention are complex or even essential.. will probably stick to same blue boot top.
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