Discussion in 'Technical Discussion' started by Marc58viking, Feb 9, 2020.
I’m looking for suggestions regarding removing oxidation from Rupp outriggers.
Order a new set and take better care of them.
Tell the wife she can have the income from the old alloy sale.
Contact the mfg directly. Be ready to email pictures of the corrosion you are wanting to service.
This could turn into an interesting thread when all the forum comes back on line.
Probably good reading of the factory's response if/when that comes in.
We could use some pictures also.
Please keep us up on the labor to clean up vs repairing.
I inherited this issue from the previous owner. And after spending an inordinate amount of $ fixing all the other more essential problems not about to drop another 20K on outriggers. They are still in good shape other than the oxidation from the second spreader out. I did get a good laugh out of the response though. Thanks.
Here is some information from another boating site on a couple of products that will bring them back most of the shine.
As most here (not all) will tell you, my comments require a grain of salt and patience (spelled; t e q u i l l a).
The YF salt draggers are out this weekend thrashing their own outriggers. Once their back from letting all the big uns get away and telling all, all about it, They will offer some more ideas.
Don't forget that factory call. They still could have an ammonia based special recipe to help.
Is this the steel hardware rusting against the alloy or the alloy looking poor. Please send us some pictures.
I see Skip is in. He found a good line worth reading.
Try waxing them with Collinite insulator wax. You could also try Collinite metal wax first, which is a little bit abrasive, then coat with insulator wax. Won't take out everything but will make them look a heck of a lot better than they do now.
Rupp Aluma Guard will make them look good, just wipe on with terry cloth towel, leaves an light oily coating. Works good on all anodized aluminum. Doesn't last long, but looks really good.
Depends on how badly the oxidation has set in. Bad? You'll start with around 200 grit with the grain and work your way up to around 2000, followed by metal polish. If light you might get by with just using metal polish after a little brass wool.
Flitz metal polish...easy to use..looks new when put on....lasts about 3 washings
I'm telling you, all of the sportfish guys on custom sportfish and high dollar production boats, use Collinite on them. Just insulator wax if they're in good shape, if not metal wax first, then coat with insulator wax. Lasts a good 6 months or more if you rinse them well after salty trips.
As Capt J said, collinite is the best. If they are truly in poor shape there is nothing that will bring them back. Look for new used ones on inthebite.com or, just do a google search. I have had all different levels of oxidation on past used boats, and have learned this the hard way.
Agreed. All depends on the level of impact of this oxidation, though. I guess that was the core of my response. I always used Flitz, but my oxidation wasn't an issue. I just wanted to keep them clean and coated.
No, the sandpaper will bring them back. A ton of effort, but cutting the sandpaper into long 2" strips and doing the work on the dock makes it all much easier to handle.
If your going to sand the Anodize finish down to bright metal, could the OP paint them?
Clear to ships trim color would be available.
If you do sand them all down, as mentioned, would need to probably paint them. I have seen many black outriggers, that would be an option, but not sure how esthetically pleasing that is. That's a lot of work, have to DIY, or pay someone. There are often a set of double spreader riggers for sale that are used, and at a great price. Have to weigh the pros and cons, and cost.
There was a company in Fort Lauderdale that advertised no maintenance finish on outriggers, towers, and bow rails etc. I think a company still does it, and yes they would clear coat the aluminum with a clear eurethane. I would probably use clear Awlgrip if going this route as Awlgrip does not recommend or require waxing. The finish would last a few years and then the finish would fail and then everything would start oxidizing. You could also have them re-anodized but this would probably be cost prohibitive.
That being said, I would absolutely not sand the anodizing off unless metal wax does not do adequate results. I honestly have had impressive results with Collinite metal wax, followed by Collinite insulator wax to seal them on outriggers that were heavily oxidized and would try that result first. Besides you're spending $40 in materials, and if those two don't work. Those are the products everyone down here uses to polish and seal stainless steel on yachts. We also use the insulator wax to seal and protect clear enclosures as well (strataglass and EZ2CY).
We have used insulator wax for years but switched to rejex 2.5 years ago. It is superior in my opinion. Goes on like wax but protects and repels water much better. We use on anything smooth. Riggers, vinyl, enclosures, hull, glass, rods, reel, ect. We reapply twice a year, even though it is still working. Gives the surface a hard, smooth feel. I've tried all the other stuff over the years and this is everything it's supposed to be.
On another note a big thank you to all the frequent posters like oldboater, Ralph and J. You have taught me alot and are a great source of knowledge.
Interesting not sure who read the article I posted as their is a couple of options that will greatly improve the shine and last for several years maybe more. Yes colonite wax is a great product when applied to good condition alum outriggers.
Here's a short part of that post.
Originally Posted by cobraarvey
You are on the right track with the wet sanding work you have already done. Next step is to clean the finish up using Dawn (neutralizes the surface for the coating to adhere to the aluminum), and then follow up with Showboat Custom Coating (ceramic coating). See their website for the application process. I did my outriggers 4 years ago, and they look as new. Granted, mine already were almost new when I did the job, and only needed a Soft Scrub/Dawn application before I coated them. But the point is they are still looking great with just regular boat soap and no waxing. Your riggers look like the ones on the Showboat video's, and they ended up looking new.
If you need help, call the owner. He was very forthcoming with info when I spoke to him.
Thanks for the info.
I did check their website last night. I know those guys get really good results.
I just ordered some Nyalic. From what Ive researched, it seems I can get similar results w less tedious prep and ability to fix and or remove it as its solved based. So if it doesn't work out, I can remove it w xylene or the like.
Little more economical as well.
The stuff has been around for a long time. Gonna give it a try.
May even try it on my gelcoat