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Discussion in 'General Yachting Discussion' started by Seeker, Mar 10, 2011.

  1. Seeker

    Seeker New Member

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    I appreciate this info! I have been looking into chartering and checking out the prices. This gives me a good grounding on what we are looking at for the rentals. From my knowledge and standpoint I feel the chartering is definitely the way to go. I like to research all aspects before making any purchases and this will help greatly. Thanks for the info.


    Mick
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    I love it! Occationally I read something that is more than just information but touches that inner vision in me. I love your thoughts here and how you would go about them. You definitely have planted a few seeds here! Thanks mate.

    Mick
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    Ownership Anxiety :) I was starting to wonder what to label it. I like to research any purchase or any endeavor for that matter. I have found that with these boats you raise that bar x 100. I can see its going to take me at the very least a year before we are going to be able to make a decision and feel good about it on a purchase.

    Mick
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    Thanks mate.


    Mick
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    Thanks Brian for the in-depth coverage of the 66 Gun and Powercraft. I really enjoyed the videos of the Gun boat! I really appreciate you taking the time to put things in perspective for a new boat owner to be. I can see more so now than before that there are many decisions that we will have to cross, such as the privacy with the smaller boats for my wife and myself.

    I havn't put much thought into the draft of the boat, but now I can see that we would definitely want something shallower to be able to go into these beautiful areas. We have a beach home off of Nags-head NC, and I know what you mean about the water levels there!

    Much of the enjoyment is going to be having more possibilities open to us with the proper outfit. My wife enjoys working along side of me in even with carpentry work, so I could see both of us entertaining the idea of a smaller craft and managing the operations ourselves.

    When I was originally setting up a budget, I had no idea what to expect on costs, other than seeing some of the larger boats and the associated costs on the internet. I have to say in the last week or so after researching alot more and getting feedback on the forums, that perhaps our first boat purchase may be in the 60-70' area.

    We are liking the idea of the privacy, as well as the new experience in boating! Used is deffinitely a consideration. It will be interesting in the end, which boat we will choose for our first time. I started off as a kid with a dream of a big boat, exploring exotic areas, and sailing the seas! I still have that vision tucked away and never thought I would get to experience it. I can see we have to be realistic on the "BIG" boat idea for all practical purposes. Its not just the expenses that I would question with a crew, and a larger boat size, but the type of adventure/experience we would be enjoying on the waters.

    Thank you again for all this feedback. This has given us alot to think about and more to research. Best wishes.


    Mick
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    Some good info here, thanks very much.


    Mick
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    Great info here that I didn't consider. The ownership experience gets even deeper :)
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    Nice job...your answering each person's contribution
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    Aye.., Its been really busy this last week and I didn't get time to reply as soon as I would have liked and I finally got around to checking in last evening. We have been busy with some IVF complications. I sure hope this round takes!


    Mick
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    Ahoy Seeker...

    Now that you've heard what drives and what dives, the choice is to get off the beaten path and get some first hand experience in your purchase planning skills. No doubt about it, you will not starve with the huge amount of food for thought you have been given.

    So, get out there and enjoy an ultimate experience on several charters and see if your view still goes on forever. Hopefully, you will gain a few good memories with a gut-feeling that helps you make the final choice in St. Lucia or Papeete...just go out there and give it a try.

    Once you find that affordable luxury, comfort and beauty, decide if you have found the tranquility that comes with yacht ownership. As you take that leisurely swim in those sparkling azure waters and look up at the yacht you have chartered...is it to be or not to be...that is your question?!?!?!

    CHEERS!! Bartender, another round for Mick and his mates...as he decides on
    his wide range of destinations and experiences. Soak up all of the given information and see if anything has been left out and oh yeah, GOOD LUCK!!
  13. brian eiland

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    I was looking for something tonight and just happen to run across a posting I had made about the shallow water trip down the back side of the outer banks....:cool: trip

    http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/sailboats/aftmast-rigs-623-29.html#post429311
  14. brian eiland

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    Keep That Dream Alive

    Keep that vision tucked away and don't let loose of that dream...hopefully you will get a chance to do just that after your initiation into the liveaboard-vagabond-explorer lifestyle. It's a great experience. I still harbor the dream to do a country-port hopping tour of the Mediterranean and the Baltic Seas. Then throw in at least one canal barge trip thru the wine country of France and my dreams would be satisfied.
    (this would be my choice of a canal boat ;) )
    http://www.bargesinfrance.com/roisoleil-pictures.htm

    You meet so many interesting people, and experience so many diverse living styles on this earth. Don't wait until you are too old or set in your ways to fully embrace it. Was it Huck Finn (Marc Twain) that said something like:

    “Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the thing that you didn't do than by the ones you did do,
    So throw off the bowlines....sail away from the safe harbor....catch the trade winds in your sails....Explore, Dream, Discover.”

    http://www.twainquotes.com/Discovery.html


    Look what this guy did with just a raft trip along a river in Thailand
    http://www.yachtforums.com/forums/113185-post15.html
    http://www.yachtforums.com/forums/117683-post16.html


    ...and finally
    Living on a Yacht vs Living in a House
    Once upon a time I worried about whether my savings would not better be invested in a house than in a sailboat. Then I read certain magical words by Arthur Ransome, acquired the sailboat, and have lived happily ever after. The words are these, from Racundra’s First Cruise:

    “Houses are but badly built boats so firmly aground that you cannot think of moving them. They are definitely inferior things, belonging to the vegetable not the animal world, rooted and stationary, incapable of gay transition.

    The desire to build a house is the tired wish of a man content thenceforward with a single anchorage. The desire to build a boat is the desire of youth, unwilling yet to accept the idea of a final resting place…. When it comes, the desire to build a boat is one of those that cannot be resisted. It begins as a little cloud on a serene horizon. It ends by covering the whole sky, so that you can think of nothing else. You must build to regain your freedom.”


    …excerpted from the preface of ‘The Proper Yacht’
    http://www.yachtforums.com/forums/46993-post41.html
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    That's a beautiful canal boat, but about the wallpaper in the staterooms.:eek: ;)
  16. brian eiland

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    That is rather strange, isn't it :rolleyes:

    Take some bikes along and do some side trips off to other villages and a few vineyards
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    You've had a 20, get a 24 and work your way up
  18. brian eiland

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    Canal Boats

    Upon making this reference in this posting, it brought this idea back to the forefront of my mind, so I just had to start a new subject thread on this subject of canal boats:
    http://www.yachtforums.com/forums/general-yachting-discussion/15873-inland-waterway-cruising-boats-barges-etc.html
  19. brian eiland

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    Great Harbour Trawlers

    Lets move onto a vessel I believe both you and your wife would really enjoy, a Great Harbor 47 in either the N47 or GH47 configuration.

    While I was visiting a friend of mine in St Augustine, FL this past Jan, we took an exploratory ride over to ex-military marina on the St John's river in Green Cove Springs FL. The area peaked my interest enough that I returned there about 3 weeks ago to have another look around. It was early morning and I was exploring all the different waterfront facilities and various vessels. I was particularly looking for live-aboard possibilities, both location and vessels.

    I spotted two 'work boat looking' vessels that I vaguely recall seeing some photos of, but I had never paid much attention to them, as I've always been a fan of a 'graceful sheer lines' in boat designs, be it power or sail, and these tug boat shaped hulls didn't possess that. In other words I had never given these designs a second thought...they just weren't too pretty in my eye. Being out of the water I did note the shallow draft of these vessels, the good protection offered to the shafts and props, the generous size of the props that indicated efficient operation, and the apparent quality of the construction.

    ...to be continued

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    Great Harbor Trawlers (cont)

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    Sitting just behind these two 47 footers was a 37 foot version Semper Fi that was being offered for sale. A gentleman in the yard there offered that I might climb up and have a look around this used 37, since there was no broker present at that early hour. I was EXTREMELY impressed !! I've attached some photos I took of this 37 footer that morning. The saloon area was nothing too exciting, but it was executed very nicely and could benefit from some decorating. But then step down into that galley with its full size counters and full size refrigerator, etc. This is a galley that almost any lady, or gentleman chief can appreciate. And the 2 big portlights, and the white walls with wood trim all added to the openness of this galley.

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