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  1. Capt Ralph

    Capt Ralph Senior Member

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    That marina with just a single amp service does not want live boards or anybody on the docks for sure. Single 30 will just keep a battery charger, fridge and de-humidifier running fine.
    There is not much you can do with a single 30a rather than go to another dock. In the states, a single 30A outlet is only 115Vac, period.
    A step up transformer to 230Vac will only offer 14Amps. Nothing is for free and usually cost some in the conversions.
  2. NYCAP123

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    Know Davis Park real well. Used it and Watchill as teaching locations many times. In fact dug a channel in there with a 60' Sunseeker a few years back going to a wedding. Had to dock on the other side of the dock from the ferry, used the reverse Y. No problem other than getting hit by a tornado. Different story if you hit Watch Hill unless they upgraded since I was last in there. Once the weekend is over you'll have no problem finding a 2nd pedestal to hook up to. Of that list I'd stick with the Sea Ray, not just for the electric but for the ease of getting it serviced in the area. Btw, you sure about that SR40FB being 50 amp?
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    I just pulled up pics of a couple SR 40 SB and see twin 30 amp cables.
  4. Worthy vessel

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    I have not checked the electric yet on these boats but thank you for the info on the Sea Ray.
    We had a 2004 Sea Ray 39 MY with 50 amp service. Sold it.
    We now have a 2009 Sea Ray 36 Sedan Bridge with two 30 amps- but my wife complains it is too small.
    You know how that goes. They redid the docks after Sandy and now the width is not a problem, just the electric.
  5. NYCAP123

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    "3 footitis". Know it well. Most of the people at Davis don't use a/c during the day either because they don't have it, there's a nice breeze or because they're on the dock or at the beach most of the time. When you retire (and your fridge will be closed) just switch lines for a pleasant night's sleep or you can use a 30/30 to 30 splitter and make the adjustments on your panel.
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  7. Capt J

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    Not thrilled about any of them. But Searay then regal.......I'd consider Tiara.
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    If his wife finds the 36 SB too confining Tiara won't cut it. Sea Ray is his best bet because there's so many on Great South Bay and he can be serviced on the west end of the bay and over in Westhampton one bay east, in fact anywhere in between with their mobile service. Regal is not represented on the water anywhere around here.
  9. Pascal

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    After a boat is a few years old, brand doesn’t matter when it comes to service. Quality wise, I look at tiara first. Never been a fan a SR. Access to systems is always awful. I be had to deal with a few over the years and usually you can reach things like fresh water pump, bilge pumps, generators within one hand only. Awful.
  10. NYCAP123

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    It does when any part you might ever need is only 10 miles away along with the people who know every inch of your boat and every problem they're prone to have, especially when most of your cruising is local.
    I'd never claim Sea Rays to be great boats, but they're good boats and they've got the best service network on the east coast (especially on L.I. and Especially on our south shore bays).
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    Tiara is a better built boat IMHO, but it's roots are in fishing. It's attractive to a different customer. It's like the SR 29 AJ, a great boat for fishing, but you don't think Sea Ray when you're looking for a fishing boat. I've never had any trouble accessing any of the systems on Sea Rays and I've been on a few. I managed the marina for Surfside in Lindenhurst at one time, and have captained and transported many.
  12. Pascal

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    99% of the frequently needed parts are off the shelf. There is no reason to pay over priced labor from a dealer when any contractor or maintenance guy can fix most issues usually for a lot cheaper and better service. You don’t need a Sea Ray (or regal or mutt or ferreti or prestige or... ) dealer to fix a cruisair air con, a dometic Vacuflush, a rule bilge Pump, a cummins engine, a ZF gear, a ‘beke gennie or patch gelcoat.
  13. Oscarvan

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    It can be done.

    If any of your appliances are 240V they won't work. Period. So if this is going to be a long term plan you could replace them with 120V versions.

    And, you CAN do quite a bit with 30A service, you just can't do it all at once. There's tons of 30A RV's out there, I have owned them. You CAN run one (not overly large) AC and the battery charger. Then when you want to make hot water (depending on wattage of the water heater) you turn the battery charger off, if you ALSO want to run the micro wave you turn the AC off for a few minutes etc. etc.

    In other words, install a GOOD AC ammeter, and know the power demands for the various appliances. Manage the load.

    This may require some re-doing. But again, if you're going to be there, and it is a pretty spot, it may be worth it. So in THAT case, I would buy the boat that has good ACCESS to the electrical system.
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    Correction, I did get stuck on the outboard side of a motor on a 46 DA once (and I'm claustrophobic).:rolleyes:
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    i have been on a couple of larger tiaras and they re no fishing boat. In fact we did a tandem charter in the Exumas a couple of years ago with a 47ish tiara and I was impressed. I had to help the other captain with a couple of issues and everything was accessible

    on the other hand Every other mid size SR was a nightmare to work on unless your shoulders are like extra small :) they re decent boats as long as you can pay a small guy to work on them.
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    i once volunteer to help a neighbor fix a couple of things on a 46 DA. Never again. Fresh water pump on the forward ER bulkhead only reachable with one hand... same for the midship bulge pump. Inexcusable
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    The OP will decide whether or not that rates consideration in his circumstance. Some people find it reassuring to bring their car to the dealership long after it's out of warranty and if that reassurance costs them a few dollars it's worth it to them. With a boat in this class and area it would be to me. With something I was going to cruise around the country or the world no.
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    The average Sea Ray customer would generally not be making those repairs anymore than they'd be changing the oil on their car. The guy who buys it 10 or 15 years down the road is expecting work and skinned knuckles no matter what he buys since he'll be doing everything.
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    No but let me tell you, there are LOTS of trip ending parts on Euro brands that you have to wait weeks for because you can't find them locally.
  20. Pascal

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    An experienced Captain comparing a boat to an airplane. No wait... that was the foggy memory thread... comparing a boat to a car. Funny.