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More illegal charter crackdown

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  1. Capt Ralph

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    There going to luv him in Club Fed.
    They may find humor in a TWERK name.
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    His choice of names fits right in with his method of operating.
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    Good.
  4. olderboater

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    The fines are still woefully inadequate which is why you've gotten some who just considered them a calculated risk or even a cost of doing business. Now, banning from all water for three years gets closer, but I wouldn't bet on the repeat offender staying off the water.
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    The fines as initially announced add up to close to $50k in each case but I wonder if they are later reduced and negotiated down once the **** lawyers get involved.
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    Even the full fine only takes a couple or a very few charters to recover. Some accept as a cost of doing business.
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    Good news, another caught.

    Hmm, a couple of charters to recover $50?
    Once the scumbags are on the radar, or in jail, it would be hard to continue the program.
    If they really want to run charters and if the profit is so great, why not go legal and sleep good at night..?
    Not rocket science: A good boat, a Captain's License, an LLC, a webpage, etc.
    I did it with minimum pain and suffering, and I am lazy as can be..:cool:
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    You're not carrying 22 passengers. Some of them are also offering extra services you don't offer.
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    No, not carrying 22 pax, but If I wanted to go rogue I sure could. As far as extra services, sure break the law and you can run a whore house and serve moonshine on your wannabe charter boat.
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    Which is what some of these do. The first time they're caught and fined, it gets reduced. Second time it gets very serious. I won't be at all surprised even after being banned from the waters to see some of them reemerge. Then, hopefully even more punishment.

    I so strongly dislike what they do as they try to convince people it's harmless but then lives are jeopardized and lost. I compare it to all the substandard charter buses on which groups of people have lost their lives. You're so right about it not being rocket science to do it legally, but some people just have no interest in doing so. The legal charter party boats are charging about $1000 per hour. Some of these boats are collecting more though in not chartering the entire boat to one person but charging each person individually to come party.
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    $50k in fines can not be recovered... do the math. The average rate for a day charter on a 50/60 footer is around $3 to $4k... these boats dont do more than 40 to 50 day charters a year. It s a crowded market down here.
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    These guys are still in business: The sign on the seawall says Boat Rental, call this #.
    (No-Name Harbour, Key Biscayne)
    The Boat Rental part may be an angle on the Bare Boat Charter rules: Rent the boat, rent a Captain, but the Captain can not be the owner, otherwise you are OUV.
    They are probably in bed with the bar/restaurant right there called Boaters Grill.
    Or the tub may be completely legit, but heard otherwise.
    No OUV stickers...

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    I have to wonder what it took for the state park to allocate them the space on the bulkhead considering how limited space is there.

    He was here at Dinner Key for a while and there were many complaints about drunk obnoxious guests... I believe it is the owner who runs the boat, definitely more than 6 pax on board pretty much all the time

    as to the sticker, afaik it s a courtesy inspection, not mandatory.
  16. Norseman

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    Yup, volunteer inspection.
    Do it every year on my boats.
    Free, painless and nobody bother you when displaying these stickers.
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    Hmmmm, I have been boarded for routine safety inspections with a loud and clear safety inspection sticker displayed. That said, it was quick and courteous.
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    Ouch, you are busting my bubble..
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