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Discussion in 'General Yachting Discussion' started by LuvBigBoats, Jan 1, 2021.

  1. LuvBigBoats

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    OK thanks--will check it out. Yeah I think you're right about 2014 being out of my price range, unfortunately.
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    0236C876-1F71-4B0F-9F11-7FFCDDF2DB54.jpeg Lots of ways to do bow seating; on our 54’ we have a sunpad with backrest, and if we are anchored or ICW idle speed in Calm waters we just set up West Marine folding chairs to lounge and mingle.
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  3. LuvBigBoats

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    Thanks--will keep something like that in mind.

    Does anyone reading this know if the 67 Viking Sport Cruiser from the mid-2000s has fiberglass fuel tanks?
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    As far as I know Princess/VSC has always used aluminum tanks and usually outsides of Engine room.
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    Thanks--seems like very few companies use fiberglass, at least for motor yachts. I kind of like that VSC with the C18s.
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    There's a 2005 68' Cheoy Lee Bravo for sale that looks great. From what I've read on this forum, fully cored hulls are something to avoid. This hull apparently is fully cored except for the keel. Anything special about Cheoy Lee that takes them out of this general view that fully cored hulls should be avoided?

    That engine room is pretty remarkable.
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    After gasoline changed their formulation and melted tanks ruining motors I doubt you'll find many manufacturers wanting to risk a change in diesel one day soon doing the same.
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    What did they use? Balsa or foam like Divinycel?

    Even a balsa cored hull works well if done properly with every hull penetration surrounded by solid glass. AND if nobody goes drilling holes afterward...
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    Hatteras, Lazzara , Viking among others are all using fiberglass tanks. Ethanol can’t be added to diesel so no risk of some politician trying to buy favors from farmers in the future. And since the late 80s, resins formulations are compatible with ethanol.

    I m not a big fan of aluminum tanks...
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    That's too many ifs. Balsa core doesn't belong below the waterline. Even fiberglass can absorb water.
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    Never say never when dealing with politicians, scientists and oil companies. Remember they're trying to figure out some ways to cut pollution from diesel and the end user doesn't seem to at the top of their priority list. At least aluminum dosen't dissolve into the fuel.
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    From what I can tell no balsa, all foam. Not sure what brand/type of foam.

    Don't think there's any balsa. Just foam. Not sure what your last point is getting at.
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    Other than Hatt and I think Horizon and Cheoy Lee all the boats I've been looking at have aluminum tanks.
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    On balance I would not be interested in a balsa cored hull. But done properly and maintained properly this is not a problem. In fact properly resigned balsa cored GPR is very strong, very well insulating for temperature and sound.
    As for Cheoy Lee, if the 2005 are anything like all of the 1970 and 1980 sail boats that are still floating around you may be fine. They made one heck of a 63' motor sailor in the 80s.
    This 2005 68 MY looks like a nice engine room as you say, there will be some deoration/interior that may need a bit of updating and the price is still kinda on the high end.
    I really dislike YW now, BTW. Looses my searches unless I log in with the UK english and change to dollars and feet...
    Here are more to look at in your wheel house. US, 55' up to 70' (hey you can handle it with good communication and planning even short handed), up to $900K, Cat's a plus (lising no Mans for now) upper and lower helm,
    2001 Neptunus 70MY
    2005 Viking Princess 67
    2001 65 Hatteras Enclosed Bridge, this is a cool boat fishing and crusing best of both worlds.
    2002 63 Hatteras RPMY, I know you like these.
    2008 Neptunus 62 MY with MTUs
    2009 Sunseeker Manh. 60 with Cats

    There are lots of Man powered boat as you have found. Limit that and you limit your search for sure, which is fine, you have to be happy with your decision. As you know, there will be plenty to manage and fix and upgrade.

    I have another term B.O.A.T.T, no longer break out another thousand, break out another ten thousand:)
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    First, thanks so much for doing this. I've now at the point where I'm looking only at newly listed boats (YW) and recently updated boats (BT), since I've seen literally everything in the US that comes close.

    I've added some comments to your finds above.

    Re MAN engines, after more checking I'm even more opposed to them now than I was before. Very little support for them in my area.

    Thanks again
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    Cool. I can leave you to it. What about pocket listings or boats that are not for sale but as we know every boat is for sale, they just might not know it.
    How can a broker get the word out on certain vessels that you see that may be of interest that are not officially on the market? Just a thought.

    I have no experience with MANs but I think you have to be comfortable with them and you certainly have done enough to decide that is a motor you are not interested in. We on the west coast are not like FL or Annapolis with readily available professionals ready and willing to be at our beck and call so I, for one, get it.
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    For pocket listings, I tried hiring someone who I thought would be in a position to find that sort of stuff, but I just got frustrated with the lack of attention, responsiveness and follow-through.

    There is one pocket listing I'm looking at seriously right now and may buy it.

    I wish there was a national "Want to Buy" where people could post up what they are looking for. I put up a WTB here. I get the sense that it's a very loose word of mouth system out there, which is unfortunate.
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    Did some more searching on the coring type. For the 2009 model year they used "Divinycell or equivalent" cored fiberglass. I also saw an ad for another 2005 where they said "Airex/Divinycell/Airlight cored fiberglass" was used. Does this change views on whether it's something to avoid?
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    Divinicel is excellent. Closed cell so it can’t absorb water. Hatteras has been using it for years. I ve used it to build a little 26’ classic sloop.

    as mentioned before, properly used balsa is excellent It is supposed to have better bonding to resin than foam. But it has to be done right with an area of solid glass around every hull penetration. Lazzara used balsa below water line. Our manuals includes blue print of every hull penetration... it was we’ll engineered
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    Lazzara and Viking are the only 2 builders I know of that built out of Balsa and used it successfully and without issues. Viking on SF decks many years ago. On the other hand, I've known of dozens of builders that had major structural issues (water intrusion) using it.