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Discussion in 'Chris Craft Roamer Yacht' started by alloyed2sea, Oct 23, 2006.

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  1. JimBauer

    JimBauer New Member

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    Well, after owning Ms Kitty for 16 years we sold her last year and downsized to a 31 foot Silverton Convertible. When you get to being in your 70's a high maintenance 55 foot boat is a little much. Our last long cruise was in 2016 bringing her from San Francisco to San Diego.. An absolutely delightful boat....

    The new owner had her for 3 weeks and called me to see if I knew anyone that wanted her. It seems he bit off far more than he could chew.. Thought he could make a fortune taking people on dinner cruises...

    As for me, I'll be lurking around here still and if anyone needs data I'm available and still have most of my notes and brochures...

    Jim Bauer
    San Diego
  2. artwork

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    So, you see I don't post very often, but here I am again. I am here and afloat, this project did not go 'south'. Spoiler alert - project is 99% complete, cruising the Eastern half of the US, living aboard. Still lots of trim work and accessories to install, but she runs great, comfortable and relatively easy on fuel (1650 hours on the new John Deeres).
    We'll bring you along a bit at a time with the completed boat pic a little later. I should warn the Roamer purists, this is not what you are looking for. The state of Michigan insisted that of there is an HIN, it remains a 1970 CC Roamer; so it is.
    The boat was stripped to just a hull and trucked to Michigan. Set up in our back yard. Did I mention that we have a sizable back yard? Then 16 months of cleaning, measuring, and design work. Lots of correspondence between the Naval Architect and us resulted in a plan. June '06 was Aluminum shipment #1. Here we are clamping up the fore deck. 060907 foredeck clamp-up 4.JPG
  3. artwork

    artwork Member

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    Late 2004 was purchase and trucking,
    2006 vinyl building is erected so construction can move ahead thru the year. June start of construction.
    Things move pretty quick the first few years. Big parts = big progress. Starts looking like a boat. This pic is about April '07

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    Yeah, you are seeing right. no longer a "Roamer profile". I hope Chris Smith is smiling somewhere. At least #0501 is not in a scrap yard.
    It will be '08 before we consider the Superstructure complete, but at this point was can plastic wrap the doors and windows and heat the interior. We can weld from March till November, but when the aluminum is really cold, welding is not impossible, but let's call it tricky.
    Interior work begins winter '07-'08.
  4. artwork

    artwork Member

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    Maybe this is a little out of sequence, but i found a couple pictures that show the process getting to the last post.

    Weld sub assemblies in the heated garage. Slide them out in the snow. Lift into place.
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    This is cold weather so we preheat the aluminum to be welded.
  5. artwork

    artwork Member

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    Once the shell is complete, begin plumbing and electrical. No pics of this because it is truly tedious, uninteresting work. Without interior bulkheads or headliner the work goes pretty quickly. I can say that there are several hundred feet of PEX tubing, manifolds, 3 way valves, check valves, etc. then on to wiring. Easily 2000 feet of wire, from 18 gauge (LED lighting) to 3/0 marine cable.
    Side story for those of you that work on your own boat. There are many projects that make you think hard. BUt I assure you that cutting a 10 inch diameter hole below the waterline WILL make your sphincter pucker.
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    Yup, that's the better half staring back at me.
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    Good, snug fit and level, whew ! !
  6. Gerry Irons

    Gerry Irons New Member

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    Sure wondering where all the 58's have gone! Selma III, Mayflower, Tahiti . . . the 68's - Casa Nina, Brown 'n Surf, Runnaway . . . Anyone know what happened to them?
  7. Capt Ralph

    Capt Ralph Senior Member

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    Reef material?
  8. Gerry Irons

    Gerry Irons New Member

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    Be a shame . . .
  9. Capt Ralph

    Capt Ralph Senior Member

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    It is. Messed with enough Strikers and Roamers.
    Mother Nature always prevails over the poorly maintained alloy boats.
  10. Gerry Irons

    Gerry Irons New Member

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    Always preferred the Burgers (Tae-Foy, Panacea, Trevellen, Pink Lady V, and many other Burgers were part of my work list . . .
    Different world now!
  11. Capt Ralph

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    Sadly, they may be under the pressures of Salt Water also.
    I looked at a Burger weeks ago. Near could sense the water thru the plates. Not much time remaining. Audio proved my concern.
    Shame, it was a looker.

    Plastic and newer alloys buy a lil more time.

    Darn, I do luv and miss the older & original lines.

    Our boat just had it's 40th in June. Old plastic MY Bertram.
    I would luv these lines in a allow today.
  12. Gerry Irons

    Gerry Irons New Member

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    I remember painting one of the first Hattaras' off the line - 41 footer. My Dad used to call them "Chlorox Bottles"
    Fibreglas has sure stood the test of time! Bertram built a great boat!!
  13. Capt Ralph

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    One of my most memorable personal boats was an old Pearson 28 Motor cabin cruiser.
    Twin old (OLD) 318 Chryslers.
    I never thought I'd be able to drill thru the hull to install a transducer. Had to return and purchase a special long neck transducer because the hull was so thick 12" away from the keel.
    Nobody knew what or how long fiberglass would last back then.
    From the mid 60s, I saw that ole girl on the water a couple of years ago. What a graceful ole gal she was running up the StJohns river.
    ,,,Hang on,,, tears again,,..
    She may out live me and my wife's kids.
    I've been blesses owning and working on some of these old plastic bottles. Sadly, I tried, never owned an alloy boat.

    Maybe Murphy figures I'd paid enough dues and kept me with the plastic boats but Gad, I luved the Alloy boats I worked on.
  14. Capt Ralph

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    Here I am rambling again on somebody else's thread.
    If you need more tears lets open a new thread or PM me direct.
    Best to all Roamer fans.
    ,rc
  15. Gerry Irons

    Gerry Irons New Member

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    Understood - But -
    I spent a lot of time on a Nordhavn - N6230 - “Walkabout” around Japan, China/Hong Kong, and finally in the Indian and Southern Oceans (Freemantle to Adelaide)

    Great boat. Solid. Nothing slowed her below 7 knots!

    My personal boat - a woodie. Dropped a pair of Perkins 4-236 in her and spent six years from Lauderdale through all the Bahamas, Turks/Caicos, Haiti, DR, Puerto Rico, etc. 35,000 miles just ‘gunk holing’. As long as the pumps worked - we kept on going!

    Different times . . . wonderful memories. My Dad said - every time we returned to Lauderdale - “Wings of Angels!” No other explanation for you making it back again!

    Working with the ‘alloy’ boats is what paid the bills. LOVED spending their money!!!

    Now I'm done.
  16. alloyed2sea

    alloyed2sea Moderator

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    Of the (30) 58' Flush Deck Riviera MYs made [(8) - 1969-70s; (22) - 1971-72] we have found (14):

    1969 FDMY RMP-58-501 "Tinacious" Ft. Lauderdale,FL
    1969 FDMY RMP-58-50* "Arianna" Croatia
    1972 FDMY RMQ-58-5*** "Good Grief" Quantico, VA
    1969 FDMY RMP-58-507 "Bogey's Cove" Unk
    1969 FDMY RMP-58-5** "Apollonia" Bailey, CO
    1969 FDMY RMP-58-5** "Memphian V" Memphis?

    1970 FDMY RMP-58-508R "Sea Genie" R.I.
    1970 FDMY RMP-58-50* "Integrity" Boston, MA
    1970 FDMY RMP-58-515 "Shooter" San Diego,CA
    1970 FDMY RMQ-58-0501R NFI Little Ferry, NJ
    1970 FDMY RMQ-58-0503R "YOLO" Chattanooga, TN
    1970 FDMY RMQ-58-05** "Steinway" Beaufort, NC

    1971 FDMY RMQ-58-520R "Grand Slam" Lake Huntersville YC
    1971 FDMY RMQ-58-521R "Kafungulu" La Belle, FL
    1971 FDMY RMQ-58-5*** "Susie Q" Cincinati, OH
    Of the (27) 60' Flush Deck Riviera MYs made [1971-1974/NFI] we have found (17):

    1971 FDMY RXP-60-*** "DC-eGlobalYachts" NFI
    1971 FDMY RXP-60-*** "Fantasy" NFI
    1971 FDMY RAP-60-50* "Enchantress" Annapolis

    1972 FDMY RAP-60-0504R “Rosebud” HARRISON TWP., MI
    1972 FDMY RAP-60-050* "Janelli" San Diego CA

    1973 FDMY RMP-60-50* "MzShaletz"
    1973 FDMY RMP-60-50* "Cleared for Takeoff" Port of Spain, T&T
    1973 FDMY RMP-60-50* "Triton" Mobile, AL
    1973 MY(Houseboat) RMP-60-501 “Annie's Song” Grand Haven

    1974 FDMY RXP-60-*** "Pinnacle" Admirals Hill,
    1974 FDMY RXP-60-*** "Andrea Christine" NFI
    1974 FDMY RXP-60-*** "The Decision" Revere, Mass
    1974 FDMY RXP-60-*** "Shepsl IX" NFI
    1974 FDMY RXP-60-*** "Ali Boba & 7 Thieves" Kentucky Lake, KY

    1975 FDMY RXP-60-*** "Summer Toy" NFI
    1975 FDMY RXP-60-*** "High Spirits" Seattle, WA
    1975 MY RMP-60-0515 "Unk" Chelsea, MA
    Out of the (17) 60' MY "Houseboats" made [1973-1976/NFI] we have found (10):

    1973 MY(Houseboat) RMP-60-501 “Annie's Song” Grand Haven

    1974 MY(Houseboat) RMP-60-501 (AL) Unk Spring Lake, MI
    1974 MY(Houseboat) RMP-60-5** (AL) "Southern Girl" Pensacola, FL
    1974 MY(Houseboat) RMP-60-5** (AL) "Spellbound" FL
    1974 MY (Houseboat) RMP-60-5** (AL) "Christos"
    1974 MY (Houseboat) RMP-60-503 (AL) "Arabiya" Guntersville, AL
    1974 MY (Houseboat) RMP-60-5** (AL) "Shelley" GUNTERSVILLE, AL
    1974 MY (Houseboat) RMP-60-5** (AL) "Galatea" NFI

    1975 MY (Houseboat) RMP-60-5** (AL) "Spoiled Rotten" NFI

    1976 MY (Houseboat) RMP-60-5** (AL) "Dali" NFI​

    And finally, out of the (15) 68' FDMY Rivieras [1972-77/NFI] and (3) 68' Yacht Fisherman [1974?-77/NFI] made we have found (11) FDMYs and (3) YFs:

    1972 FDMY RMP-68-50* "Bountiful" Pittsburg, CA
    1972 FDMY RMP-68-50* "Alaskan Beauty" NFI
    1973 FDMY RMP-68-50* NFI FL
    1973 FDMY RMP-68-50*
    1975 FDMY RMP-68-5** "CC & Soda" Ft.Lauderdale, FL
    1975 FDMY RMP-68-5** "Lady Anne" NFI
    1975 FDMY RMP-68-51A “Miramarie” Ft.Lauderdale, FL
    1975 FDMY RMP-68-5** "Right of Passage" Ft.Lauderdale, FL
    1975 FDMY RMP-68-5** "Lady Ann II" FL
    1977 FDMY RMP-68-51* "Living Right" CA
    1977 FDMY RMP-68-51* "Triple Net" Tucson, AZ*
    75-77 YF RFP-68-501 RFP-68-501 NFI
    1974? YF RFP-68-502? "Fantastic" FL
    1974 YF RFP-68-50? "Dreamchaser" Hutchinson Il, FL​

    As for "Casa Nina", "Brown 'n Surf", "Runnaway(sic?)" - they may very well still exist (the big ones usually do) with new names. Fear not, we are hot on the trail [50 cents for a new name and $1 for a hull #] :)

    Keep the faith,
    Eric
    1967 CC Riviera 37' (AL)
    Chief Archivist, CC Roamers
    (weareacceptingallapplicationsforthisposition]

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  17. Gerry Irons

    Gerry Irons New Member

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    Thank you for that!
    I am pretty certain that in 1974 the "Rosebud" was bought by Myron Baker and renamed the "Tahiti" (We did the refit and re-naming at "Harbor West" Marina (Lauderdale).
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    Gerry Irons New Member

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    "Cest Magnifique". was one of the 60 ft houseboats we used to care for . . . She was left pristine until I lost track of her in 1980 or so . . .
  19. Capt Ralph

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    No idea of her hull number. Lucy II has graced our area for a few years now.
    She was just inbound to her slip today and I had to stop and watch.
    What a cutie. 20180823_164626a.jpg 20180823_164801a.jpg 20180823_164904a.jpg
  20. alloyed2sea

    alloyed2sea Moderator

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    No excuse: get the hull# & story.
    THEN, you may be granted new found status as "Roamer-of-the-Month".
    :)
    Cherio!
    - E

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