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Large center console crashes on port Everglades jetty

Discussion in 'General Yachting Discussion' started by Capt J, Jan 1, 2020.

  1. Capt J

    Capt J Senior Member

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    A large center console crashed on Port Everglades jetty night of December 30th. 4 people on board, injured and taken to the hospital

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  2. Pascal

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    Don’t you hate it when jetties are built without notice and not charted?

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  3. Capt J

    Capt J Senior Member

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    Or LIT! heehehehehe, because you know, going to the first or second set of channel markers outside of the jetty would just take way too much time at 65 mph!
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    What's the over/under on the toxicology report?
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    Bet that jetty painted nicely...... :rolleyes:
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    Spend a million on a center console and not pay somebody to teach you how to use Radar, Flir, spotlight.
  8. Ralph Holiman

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    Why not just go slow and enjoy the ride at night if you don't know what you are doing?

    Then, at least, if you're going hit something, you're going to hit it slow.
  9. Capt J

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    Because that's not nearly as much fun to a lot of people......who thread the needle and don't know any better...….most get away with it.
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    Well at least two ladies learned the hard way,, slow down and enjoy the ride next time (if there is a next time).
    SFB
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  12. C team

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    Never understood why people running at night have to go full speed? This and other accidents at night happen all the time on the Chesapeake Bay with fatalities.
  13. Pascal

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    And most don’t know how to dim all these large displays so they re blind as a bat. Or ruin their night vision by having too many lights around the cockpit especially these cool blue LEDs

    but if you look at the state boat test questions there is nothing about precaution to take at night to preserve your night vision. Come I think of I don’t recall anything in USCG OUPV or master classes either.

    in an open boat, your night vision should be enough to see obstacles with all the lights in sofl. But nowadays with plotters and radars installed on almost all boats there are no excuse for these accidents
  14. PacBlue

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    When traveling to the fishing grounds offshore I have limited myself to 10 - 12 knots, depending on sea state. Requires about 6 - 8 hours running time. I’d rather push against some object then land on top of it.

    I see plenty of small boats going 2o plus knots at night without a clue, some even 30 knots. Even in low visibility conditions ! Granted it is offshore, but I have seen enough objects in the water during the daytime and prefer not to transfer that risk to my family/passengers.
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    I know we all have feelings about the accident and what the causes were. However, let's keep one thing in mind, regardless of reasons, regardless of poor captaining, there were four people involved, four humans with friends and relatives. I hope they turn out to be ok The only information I've seen on that is that they are expected to recover. The lady tossed from the boat is a 32 year old mother from Indiana. Her husband also aboard. Her injuries were initially described as critical. She and the others have families concerned about them. Even recovering there may be long lasting issues from the injuries.

    Whether it's this allision or the sailors rescued a couple of days ago or any other boat incident, let's not let our analysis of the event and how unnecessary it was and avoidable it was, nor our speculation as to alcohol and speed and causes, blind us to the real human side of suffering and of families having concern for their loved ones. Here's hoping all four recover quickly.

    I just felt we had 14 posts, including mine earlier, and not one of us had expressed concern for the four boaters.
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    Do we really have to state the obvious??? Do you really think those of us who have commented don’t hope and pray all of them recover fully? This is a boating forum not a kuhmbaya support group

    We all need to learn from these accidents which are way too frequent. Especially folks with less experience who may read these thread.

    this is why I mentioned night vision and how to preserve it. We operate at night quite a bit and I am shocked at the number of operators that are blinded by their own boat

    as to speed, at night I rarely run faster than hull speed unless I have a real good reason like weather. Sometimes I run on plane at night on the banks but not in the stream.
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    Absolutely, and I don't think there's anyone here that wishes them anything else but the best. You also have to understand the level of frustration caused by the fact that this was avoidable. Actions have consequences and adults need to think before they do. Have I been guilty of "what the hell were you thinking?" more than I dare to admit, and sometimes I wake up in the middle of the night thinking.... "We should have been dead.... all of us". But I got away with it, and as I get older I think longer and harder before I go to the edge of the envelope. Some people pay a higher, much higher tuition.
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    I didn't say anyone didn't care, just that it hadn't been expressed here. The fact this is a boating forum doesn't mean we shouldn't post our hopes for their recovery. I'd also posted and not done so.

    Yes, we should state the obvious. Everything posted in this thread has been the obvious. As to referring to it as not the kumbaba forum, I don't consider Kumbaya a bad thing nor do I consider it inappropriate that we mention our concerns for the victims in our discussion of a crash. When sailors are lost at sea we express hopes they'll be found. When kids disappear offshore, we do the same.

    Surely, Pascal, you can tolerate me making one post thinking of the victims, which is all I was doing.
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    I imagine the operator of the boat on the rocks is feeling really bad about the outcome, especially if the insurance renews.
  20. Pascal

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    well then I apologize for havjng a snowflake moment where my feeling were hurt (not) thinking I was being accused of insensitiveness. :)

    over the years I have become very picky about who I go boating with. I work hard to be as safe as possible on my own boats or boats I run, and when I step on a friends boat I start worrying about way too many thing...