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Is the big SF market dead?

Discussion in 'General Sportfish Discussion' started by SHAZAM, Sep 9, 2012.

  1. Capt J

    Capt J Senior Member

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    No different than a 100' Motoryacht with walkways.....just need maybe 3 mates to run the lines.......just think of the spread you could get going with 100' to work with drifting sideways........
  2. PacBlue

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    Shame on me, I forgot about the Baratucci built cold molded 120'+ SF built in Wilmington (LA Harbor), CA. More of a Yacht Fisher and much slower than a Jim Smith, but still Cold Molded nonetheless. The Baratucci crew were some really colorful Italian immigrant boat builders who cut there teeth at Owens Boats before coming out west and were the backbone of the Elliott yachts built in Santa Monica.

    There are pictures of her on some previous YachtForum discussions.
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    the boats mentioned in the last few posts are XXL SFs!


    There was a time when a SF over 50' was a big boat.
    Now under 60' is a pocket SF.
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    A couple of corrections - Hull Length is 107', and she had a rather significant Bow Pulpit that put her at about 113' loa.

    Design was credited to combination of Victor Barattucci and Jack Sarin and she was launched as 2 Big Bucks, has had names including Mardiosa, Glory and now Steadfast.
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  5. Danvilletim

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    I spoke with a yard that had hauled her.. Apparently the engines would need to be realigned after every haul out due to flex in the haul...I don't know of this common or not.
  6. 84far

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    Isn't that how America works - bigger is always better :D

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    I think anything over the 70' LOA can/should be able to offer more than dipping a line, and maybe this is why the size of the S/F is slowing increasing.

    Sure anything over 80' and you won't be able to keep up with the smaller more nimble S/F's, but maybe clients are wanting more. Like dipping a line, then going off island hoping. You just get more in a bigger boat.

    Winter Custom Yachts recently launched a 60'... not sure when, but I'm under the impression it was recently. Cheers

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  8. 84far

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    Capt J, any thoughts on the bigger S/F having Pod Units to keep up with the smaller boats...? eg Besty is running I think 4x Zeus units... can she keep up...? Cheers

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  9. Capt J

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    Betsy can keep up, I think she cruises a touch over 30 knots. However, I don't think it's worth the trouble. You fuel savings on 4 pods versus 2 diesels are negligable. Then you have the hassle and expense of maintaining 4 engines and the pods. Maneuverability? With a hydraulic thruster and a competant Captain, I don't think that's worth the trouble either.....if you could do pods that are large enough to have a twin engine application than the milage would vary greatly, you would see fuel savings and decent maintanence.
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    Hi,

    How large a pod do you require?

    Azipod - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    I agree, with the twin pods. I did a 62 S/F a few years back with pod config vs the shaft drive. Lost a few hundred HP, but gained 2knots in WOT. Surely both companies would be developing a larger system for this size range, instead of chucking more motors at the situation... Cheers

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