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Have yacht designers ever been on a boat?

Discussion in 'Yacht Designers Discussion' started by Pascal, Oct 10, 2012.

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  1. Caltexflanc

    Caltexflanc Senior Member

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    I might be missing something (wouldn't be the first time), but if you are along side, why wouldn't you step on to the swim platform of a floating dock or on over if fixed? I haven't seen a Sunseeker without gates, maybe you couldn't see one in the railing. There was one like this here just the other day.
  2. Pascal

    Pascal Senior Member

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    Nope, no gates whatsoever, no opening, no boarding from the side. I looked!

    From a fixed dock it s too high a drop... You need a 3 to 4 stepper on the platform.

    At least on the Sunseeker the platform extends close enough to the dock to put steps there but on the Mutts you can't because of the taper. But even then, it would have been so easy to have a step where the cleat is
  3. kkreicker1

    kkreicker1 Senior Member

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    You are so right on this! Even the hydraulics on my home elevator have a locking beam for service. You would think that the would have some kind of structural brace to support the load.
  4. ArcanisX

    ArcanisX Senior Member

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    Oh, the railing!
    What a good number of times it is good for anything but, well, actually holding on to while walking around?
    Sorry no pics, been awhile, the "best" design here I've seen was a slightly elevated foredeck with appropriately elevated railing which comes to stepladders at each side... and the railing just ends at the topmost point. So the moment you step on the down-ladder walking astern is also the moment your hand comes loose :D
    Looks clean design from afar :D:D
  5. Berean

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    One of my pet peeves are found in the smallish (30-50) "Clorox-bottle" shaped cruisers that seem to dominate the market. The foredecks are down-sloping, best fit it seems to dispense the wife under the bow rail and into the big blue as she is working the anchor in anything but flat calm seas. Did the designers ever think outside of Auto-cad to consider that the decks actually should serve a real world purpose?
  6. carelm

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    I think the Palm Beach yachts are beautiful vessels, but the FB50 is an accident waiting to happen. Check out the access to the bridge. No handrails or protection of any kind. If you're underway and you hit a wave while someone is trying to either go up or down, they'll either go kersplat on the cockpit or kerplunk into the water.

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  7. ArcanisX

    ArcanisX Senior Member

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    Forgot the kerbackbreak across the bulwark :p

    And I thought I'm the only one who misses proper handrailing at times.
  8. Laurence

    Laurence Senior Member

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    railing

    But a easy dealer/owner fix!
  9. carelm

    carelm Senior Member

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    Palm Beach probably has an option for it already, but why be cheap about it when you're buying a $2M-$3M boat? It's likely the price of a proper handrail(s) is only a grand or two.
  10. Awesom-O

    Awesom-O New Member

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    I believe its more about aesthetic concern than cost. Anyway, that's stupidly dangerous.
  11. K1W1

    K1W1 Senior Member

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    Hi,
    It probably isn't as bad as it looks.

    If you look at the house height you will no doubt be able to use the steps like a ladder - do you have handrails on ladders?
  12. carelm

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    Maybe so. I'm not as young as I used to be and I break easier now. I just looked at the distinct possibility of taking a header either going up or down the steps.

    Here's a running shot and my first thought was " if it that was safe, how come the pilot isn't enjoying the view from the bridge"?:D

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    Hi,

    He or she might have had a better view below decks with the other crew member :)
  14. ScrumpyVixen

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    In the case of this boat, i would probably forgo the rail to maintain the beautiful lines - i have an Alfa, so am well up to speed on form over function.

    If concerned about the wife, leave her at home and take the (younger) mistress.

    Scrumpy
  15. carelm

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    Not before I ensure the pre-nups are air-tight:D
  16. kkreicker1

    kkreicker1 Senior Member

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    She is a very good-looking boat!
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    Does a house ladder pitch, roll, yaw, heave, accelerate and decelerate?

    Not only is the bridge access as bad as it looks,
    when used for its ostensible purpose the ladder places its user in substantial danger of grievous injury, or death.
  18. ttkrule

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    A couple of years back an Italian magazine published a letter to the editor in which the author (a respected, knowledgeable individual) heavily ridiculed a "Team 4 Design" project in which the hand washing basins (I forget the English word) were such that water couldn't flow out with the boat at certain attitudes.

    The "offended" party raised hell, threatened legal action and the magazine retracted. After that the T4D designs were featured more prominently in the magazine... ;)

    And that's the sorry way it goes.
  19. Pascal

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    Yet another one... 3 feet of bulging fiberglass unprotected from pilings on this marquis 50

    Then we have a pair of big transom doors folding upward. Imagine the pressure on the hinge if someone lean on them from the transom...

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  20. Pascal

    Pascal Senior Member

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    Hmmm... Looks ios6 only uploads one pic at a time

    At least Carver extended the team to the edge so you can board the boat (unlike Azimut) although you have to watch the cleat so you don't trip...

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