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Flugga boats instead of RIBs

Discussion in 'Tenders & Dinghies' started by trawler, Sep 25, 2009.

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  1. trawler

    trawler New Member

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    I found this British design for tenders/workboats called the Flugga boat.

    See: LINK REMOVED

    It's a RIB type design that features a sturdy aluminium hull with a buoyant UV-resistant plastic pipe replacing the inflatable RIB collar component, making it a very durable and low maintenance design.
    The collar is non-pressurised and basically indestructable. The sun doesn't really harm it either and you get more internal space.

    Looks like a great idea. So I wondered, why haven't I heard about it before?

    Scott
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  2. AMG

    AMG YF Moderator

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    I rather wonder why you can describe it better than their own website...?
  3. trawler

    trawler New Member

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    Oh boy.

    Thanks. I guess I forgot to add a picture!

    Why not discuss a perfectly valid question instead of getting grumpy?
  4. Henning

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    Well, the answer to your question in the OP is that there are other competing products that are better advertised and possibly better built and that the marketing program from that particular company is for crap.

    The answer to the question above is that your original post seemed a lot like:
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  5. trawler

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    A company comes by with an innovative product - so it seems.

    Their marketing needs improvement probably

    I try to get some objective feedback and everybody jumps on me.

    Just because their website is not flashy, we are not supposed to discuss the merits of their approach to the collar?

    Reminds me of, well never mind... I'll do my research elsewhere.

    Scott
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    That's just it, it's not particularly innovative, I can think of at least 10 different companies doing the non Inflatable RIB style design using various methods.

    The way you brought up the discussion is what leads people to assume that you have a vested interest in the product and are therefor "Spamming" (aka shilling) here trying to draw interest to it. I'm not sying that impression is necessarily correct, but it is the impression you have left, and for most people, "If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it is a duck." That's why you've recieved the responses you have. Most people who were just looking for information would have asked "Anybody know anything about these? Good-Junk???" and posted the link. What you posted is what someone who just started dealing or repping the line would typically post.
  7. Kevin

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    And don't take this personally trawler, because around here this happens a lot, and the members who've been around long enough might be jaded.

    As soon as you'd posted my first reaction was exactly as Henning posted. As a moderator I checked out the link you posted, and for the time being gave you the benefit of the doubt... but kept an eye on the thread as it progressed.
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    Must agree with Kevin & Henning too, sorry. When I saw it I couldn't figure out what was so special. I've seen a few foam collared RIBS used in law enforcement and rescue (DK the mfgs.). In the short time I've been participating in YF I've seen several commercial interests try to shill here. Might be a good idea for the admins to simply pull the post.
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    Gentlemen (of the last 3 posts),

    Thank you for your suggestions. I regret I gave the wrong impression. To me it looked like a new product and I've certainly not seen anything like it before (except the Safeboat folks but they seem to mostly focus on the military market) so I put in the description in the post to get people's attention.

    Well, I surely succeeded in that :).

    And I'm not a dealer either. Just doing research.

    So now that we're all clear on that, I'd love to hear about similar products and why it hasn't become more mainstream or been adopted by big brands :).
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    Fishtigua Senior Member

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    I dunno about shilling a product but I've got the boss's 7m RIB sitting outside my office leaking from somewhere.

    Its only 4 years old and with not much hard use, one blasted tube will not stay up. The fabric looks grotty and dull, so any alternative is worth a look.
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    I think that most people are looking for the soft sided and deflatable aspects. If they go hard sided they look for something more fancy. Once you put a hard collar on it it's more suited for commercial or governmental uses and technically not even a RIB.
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    Ribs are the worst of both worlds. They have the maint and leaking cost/problems associated with inflatables and take up all the room (and more) on deck of a regular hard tender. The only reason the design is so popular is that any moron can be sent off with the guests in it and bounce their way back onboard. With a decent driver and a couple of properly placed fenders, or some white D rail around the tender and you could use a much better rigid boat.
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    RIBs are used very differently from other boats. You don't go for a lunch cruise or overnight in one. They are for doing 'Stuff'.

    Want to go diving, birdwatching, counting dolphin. You name it, they'll do it; in almost any weather.

    Its not just commercial or Govt but real people who just want to go for a blast after work that use big RIBs. Get to sea in 5 minutes, sounds good to me.
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    It doesn't have to be a RIB to do any of that. The only advantage to a RIB is you can bounce it off of stuff without doing damage. There are no real safety advantages until you get into the water ballasting hull / self righting rescue boat versions.
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    Rudeness

    So if you are in difficulties in rough weather and the only boat that can get near you is a RIb , you are going to turn them away. Right !

    Any moron etc. Don't you want your guests back then ?

    Ribs have their place. Don't knock them. :)
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    I agree totally, not to mention with RIB's you really have to stay on top of them to keep them looking clean. Not to mention when you carry any real weight in a RIB (like over 4 people or gear), they won't get on plane and are wet. They're also very small inside for the space that they take up beam wise.

    My favorite smaller tender was the Boston Whaler 13' I think they called it alert. It was an all fiberglass unsinkable boston whaler and had a 6" soft foam filled inflatable material type rub rail that went around the entire thing that served the same purpose as an inflatable that you could inflate or it still protected well un-inflated. I really don't know why they didn't catch on and they stopped making it around 2004 or so.
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    Hi,

    I have done a lot of miles in both RIBS and Hard Boats.

    On one particular day as a passenger in an AVON 4.5m Sportboat I was with one other crew member and the boat operator trying to get out from behind the breakwater in Bounty Bay, Pitcairn Island into a 4 to 5m breaking sea. It was a combination of exhilaration and sheer terror as we roared around the front of the concrete wall and straight up the face of one of these breaking monsters after a signal from the Island Magistrate who was watching the waves on the seaward side of the wall. We made it alright to out main vessel that was standing too offshore. I would have not got in a rigid boat to attempt that. Not actually sure that being 26 yrs older and wiser I would do it again either.

    Before I get abused for being stupid It was necessary to go there and then as the weather was not abating and out mother ship was unable to hold her anchor in the unprotected waters surrounding the Island or stand off for an indefinite period.

    I can think of many times I would rather be in a rib than it's hard counterpart especially when handling dive gear and divers and dealing with riders of jetskiis etc.
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    Someone else's boat and possibly losing a job vs; losing your life? Of course it was stupid. DK why people don't insure their kids higher. Guess they feel funny about profiting over their kids deaths. Kids like you were (and me) give way better odds on a pay off than any casino.:rolleyes: I consider my last 25 or so years of life an unearned bonus.:D That said, the bendable features of non-rigid inflatables are what make them so good for white-water rafting and maneuvers like you describe. Maintenance, longevity and resale value are their down sides though.
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    That may be, but it isn't really for any good reason. A properly constructed rigid boat will do just as well in the same conditions. Hell, look at every life boat on a ship or drilling rig. Look at the USCGs Surf Rescue boats. The inflatable collars only true gift is that it's a huge permanent fender.
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    :confused: :confused: :confused: Reading comprehension isn't one of your strong suits is it? How in the hell did you come up with that from what I wrote?

    Would I choose a RIB to buy as a tender? No I would not. In Rough Weather, no one needs to get near me. I shoot a messenger line to a tug who is standing off in a proper working position. Even a RIB coming alongside in rough weather is an accident and serious injury/death waiting to happen. If the boat that comes out is a RIB, so be it, but mostly RIBs can't do much for me in those conditions but evacuate, and no RIB is necessary. 20 years running boats in the oilfield and tugs in all their jobs taught me that you don't have to hit things even close quarters in heavy weather.

    Any Moron, yes, I can send any moron out in a RIB tender and trust he can get the guests ashore and return to the boat without doing any real damage. Driving a boat is pretty **** simple if you can bounce at the finish.
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