I have enjoyed many of Ed's posts and also been annoyed by a few, but that's good because it means he has his own character and way of expressing himself. Most important is Ed's willingness to help whenever he can. As for this argument, it seems clear that ALL that was necessary was either an apology by NYCAP or a simple edit of a post which is offensive. Carl, as much as your point is correct: that "we would all get on if we met at a bar and had this same conversation" the fact is this is not a bar. Many thousands of visitors and members are reading these posts and when a post is made that is a joke, but at the expense of a nationality, not to mention the sort of humour that belongs in a school yard, then it is very inappropriate. A racist joke I may tell in my own home or over dinner is one thing, if I use a microphone at a radio station with 700,000 listeners then that is an entirely different issue. Ed, you were wrong. It is not a character flaw, just a bad choice of words probably on a bad night. Just withdraw the comment and lets get on with enjoying each others company. Sharing arguments, laughs and knowledge.