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Evergreen ship stuck - Take 2

Discussion in 'YachtForums Yacht Club' started by Kevin, Apr 9, 2022.

  1. Kevin

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    The article I read said probably 2 weeks from the time they began to off load the containers. I believe that off loading started last week.
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    They have been trying to find a crane tall enough.
    Maybe, Maybe, Maybe they started off loading some boxes that they could reach today (Sunday).
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    Off loading did start over last weekend.
    Approximately 500 of the total 4,964 containers on board are expected to be offloaded prior to the next refloating attempt, according to the Coast Guard.
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    She is free and being towed South
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    Outstanding good news.
    Still looking forward to the incident investigation report.
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    How long would you think that report will take to be completed ? Several weeks or months ?
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    Unless the pilot admits something to a news reporter (Ha), maritime reports usually take a year.
    This event was pretty simple, maybe quicker.
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    So, do they rename the fleet Ever Stuck?
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    Ever Sluggish
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    IMO;
    In the Suez canal, lots of ideas and stories. I don't recall the rest of the story and probably, it will never come out.
    In the bay, if not a mechanical issue, then a pilot issue that may get buried quickly.

    From my recliner, I'm thinking the pilots have been messing up a bit lately.

    Including the Golden Ray fiasco, the engineer is taking the heat, electric cars shifting contributed also. Still,, that pilot was not the hero the media made him out to be.

    Pilot fatigue may be contributing but nobody is going here.

    Same shipper taking two events like this may hurt an otherwise good record. I wonder if they would ever come out with their own story one day and reclaim some face.

    Just some thoughts from the recliner, arm chair piloting ya know.
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    As the article points out, this will drag on for years. I've been in the situation of delayed cargo. 80% or 90% write down. I've never been in the "General Average" situation but am well aware of it as it impacts the cost of our cargo insurance. Fortunately shipping clothing or furniture, the dollar value per pound isn't exceptionally high. They mention chips being shipped. Well, we import some jewelry but never transport it by ship and the General Average rule is one of the reasons.

    I think of this as another case where shipping laws are ancient and were written solely with the idea of protecting shippers. You saw it with the TOTE boat that sank with crew and the low limits on the lives lost.

    As a shipper you have no choice but to get a bond, pay, and wait years to get anything back, if you want your goods.
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    they pulled his license.
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    We’ve had pilots bang ships into our piers and drydocks. Never been able to hold them accountable.
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    Interesting point; Is it the pilot giving instructions (lay gently on this dock) or the crew and tugs pushing into the dock poorly?
    IMO, Somebody should be responsible for bad landings.

    Wear & tear is a different issue.
    A few hundred tons of ship may not kiss a dock gently every time.
    So, before you get upset with my last comment, Can you expand on the dock and pilots damaging it please?
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