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  1. JeffD487

    JeffD487 New Member

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    Hello, I was looking to conduct the ENG1 1 Seafarer Medical Examination, but seem to only find two specific doctors to perform the examination.

    1. Concentra - Dr. S Green
    • 290 Branch Avenue Providence 290 Branch Avenue Providence Rhode Island 02904
    2. Health Medical Centers - Dr. E Grenet
    • 1489 SE 17 Suite 2 2nd Floor Southport Shopping Centre Fort Lauderdale Florida 33316
    I've checked multiple locations and this seems to be the case. If anyone knows additional locations/professionals I can get the examination, that would be greatly appreciated.

    Thank you,
    Jeff D.
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  3. celtdancer

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    Thanks for that idea.
    Looks like there’s only 1 doctor in the whole USA who is approved by the MCA (Maritime governing body of the UK) to do these “ENG1” medical exams. He’s located in Ft Lauderdale. So I’ll just do it when I get to Antibes.
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    olderboater Senior Member

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    Apparently since this thread originated, Dr. Green is no longer authorized.
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    Good to know! And in keeping with that, I just spoke to the office of Dr Grenet in Ft Lauderdale, and she said he still does them. They’re $170. But that’s the only location in the whole USA...
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    Yes. Dr. Grenet has quite the business set up. Quite a practice with occupational medicine. Still, reasonable charges. USCG is only $110. Norwegian is $200. FAA. Cruise ships. Immigration.
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    Never understood how only one or two doctors could wrap up the MCA ENG-1 business in the states. I recognize that a doctor in Louisville wouldn't have the traffic to justify being one of the anointed MD's but you would figure that Newport or Boston and one on the west coast would serve mariners in a much better way. The MCA recognizes the USCG medical certificate for non domestic licenses in lieu of the ENG-1 since 2014.
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    Try Dr. Ray Jarris in Seattle of MD Solutions International.
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    There is another quirk in MCA requirements. They have a list of countries whose medical certificates they consider equal. Now, this isn't what Captholli is referencing. I believe he's referencing the situation of a non-UK flagged vessel, including vessels flagged in their possessions. (Please correct me if I'm wrong).

    The list they consider equal is:

    European Union and European Economic States:
    Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden

    Rest of the World
    Australia, Canada, Hong Kong, India, Jamaica, Mauritius, New Zealand, Pakistan, South Africa, Sri Lanka, Ukraine

    So, in Seattle, you might well search for someone approved to give a Canadian certificate and that would be accepted by MCA as equal. There are 69 approved doctors just in BC, including many in Vancouver. That's a lot closer than Fort Lauderdale.

    There have also been cases where a country like the Netherlands approved a US doctor for their medical certificate and then that met the requirements.

    Also, interesting they accept Australia but Australia will not accept UK, the last I heard.

    To the OP, what flag are you dealing with?
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    I should have stated "Flag state" in lieu of generalizing MCA. Flags such as Cayman, Maltese, Marshalls, Etc. are acceptable for USCG / ITC medical certs with the exception of UK flagged. I do see London on a few sterns but not as often as the MCA would probably like. The British Isles were popular Flags of convenience in the 90's but you don't see them anymore along with Bermuda, not sure why that is.
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    You were talking about what I thought you were.

    They just can't make it simple and straight forward. Or won't.
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    hi there, ‘older boater’.

    Thank you so much for your comments! I just saw them now literally right after looking up the cost to fly to Fort Lauderdale!

    Maybe you’re right about the Seattle/Canada idea...? I’ll look into it. Are you saying that I might find a doctor in Seattle, who can do this? Or did you mean specifically go up to Vancouver BC? I could foreseeable drive up there. I would stay at my friend’s in Seattle the night before and after, in order to make it just a simple day trip into Vancouver. But can I, as a USA citizen, even GO to a doctor in Canada? And, would yacht recruiters in Europe be “confused” by this or just roll with it? ... I think that I’ve got some phone calls to make, come Monday, to a few of those MCA-approved doctors in B.C. ...!

    **** I don’t know “what flag” yet, as I can’t even start looking for a yacht job until I get my “STCW Basic training” and this critical “ENG1 medical exam” done, apparently. The goal is to get a job on a yacht in the Mediterranean, but I’m not sure what Flag that would be. Could be French (if I look for work in Antibes), could be Spanish (if I look for work in Barcelona), could be other flags too right? (I don’t know much about ship registry stuff, but I imagine that a yacht could be flying an Italy flag yet still be docked in Antibes and hiring).

    Thanks again! You may have just saved me a trip to Florida.
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    Thank you for this suggestion, JWY.
    I just spoke with Dr Ann Jarris (Ray’s wife) — she was kind enough to pick up the phone on a Sunday! - and she informed me that he has passed away. It was last month. She said the whole community misses him, but that she is continuing his legacy and that “they’re still open”!

    She agreed with the other person’s suggestion of maybe driving up to Canada to get my “ENG1” medical exam done. I’m going to look into it. Thanks again.


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    My understanding, but you need to confirm, is that you can get he Canadian medical certificate and it can count as an ENG-1. However, I think a USCG medical certificate will probably get you by as you're just going for STCW and not for a license, and it meets all the STCW requirements. The school where you did your STCW should be able to help you and advise you. As I and all my crew are USCG, others here have more knowledge of Europe crew requirements than I do.
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    ...but the only place to get the USCG medical certificate is in San Diego, right?

    It’s signifucantly easier for me to simply drive up to Vancouver BC, than to pay to fly down to San Diego and get a hotel. Thank you for all this help, though! I definitely appreciate it.

    I could just wait until I get to France and then do the medical exam there (in Antibes). But I would rather KNOW for sure that I’ve passed the medical exam, before selling everything and getting on a plane to Europe! That’s why I’m trying to figure out how/if I can obtain this precious ‘attestation’, whilst still in the USA.
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    I think that I've muddied the water so to speak. By all means you should obtain your STCW first as this training is a perquisite for any flag state for a position aboard a yacht or ship. Then get your ENG-1 when your in Europe. Since you don't possess a USCG merchant credential at a management level or international ITC than the USCG medical certificate is a moot point for you and it wont be accepted by any flag state as a valid alternative to the ENG-1 unless you hold a current ITC ticket.

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