Discussion in 'Yacht Crews' started by GENERAL, Dec 11, 2007.
What does a ENG 1 consist of?
How long does one take?
more info is welcome!!
An ENG 1 is a seafarers medical examination.
All you have to do is go along there and the Doctor does the rest.
You will be weighed, measured your heart will be listened to.
A urine sample will be taken to check for Diabetes.
Your hearing and eyesight will be checked this will involve a colour blind test using either a lantern or a book full of spots.
Your general physical condition will be examined in general and you may have to undergo a Chest X Ray ( I had to have one last time for the first time in my career) Deck Crew who went to the same centre after us didn't have to have this.
It takes about 30 mins for a thorough one once you actually get to see the doctor, the waiting often takes a lot longer.
The one I had this year is a good case for this. Everyone was given an appointment for 0900, myself and another Chief (also a poster on this forum) went along and not knowing where the place was managed to arrive early. We were the lucky ones as by he time we had finished there was a crowd of guys waiting.
Last year I took the German equivalent to the ENG1 with a colleague. (The UK MCA recognise the exam from many other countries).
As you would expect it was very thorough. Interestingly because of German privacy rules the results were given to us in a sealed envelope that cannot be opened by unauthorised person - a pass or fail is marked on the outside.
As Engineers we had to take a hearing test the - deck crew did not have to take this test.
We to came to the conclusion this was because deckies never listen to what they are told so for them it is unnecessary
I went to see the Dr. in Fort Lauderdale (there are only two in the entire East Coast, the other in Newport)... and because I carry a little extra weight, this moron wanted me to take an entire series of blood tests, a heart stress test, see and eye nose throat specialist. This would amount to over a thousand dollars in uninsured medical expenses! The guy, IMO, is a quack.
It should be noted that I had passed a US CoastGuard medical exam two months previously and hold a first class medical with the FAA. However, the MCA/RYA does not accept either one of these. What a crock.
So, I guess I will head down island and get a voodoo doctor to ENG1 me.
Aeronautic- Is this your first experience with the MCA?
If so all I can really say is "Welcome to the real world"
I had a minuscule amount of blood in my urine, or at least that's what the simple "stick" test said. The same sample was sent to a path lab, and it was really tiny. Test two and three came back negative and the doc still wanted to give me a lesser health ticket to "stay within helicopter range". After some diplomacy and pleading, he passed me.
He was a U.K. based doctor and generally seemed like a good guy, but in my opinion he was overreaching in his attitude.
I didn't know that there was an ENG 1 that was issued with a restriction to stay "within helicopter range of shore".
This statement in itself is pretty ambiguous as there are many places where you could be within a helicopter range( x no of miles) of shore but there would be no facilities for refuelling the machine so it has to go further thereby making your distance offshore less.
I know guys who have had theirs issued for less time and others who have been refused an ENG 1 till whatever they were having problems with was corrected.
"So, I guess I will head down island and get a voodoo doctor to ENG1 me."
Canadian medicals are equivalent. Go north young man.
If an FAA first class in not good enough, those folks aren't playing in the real world. Which is odd since the place you mention is the same place I get my FAA second class so it's not like they don't know the game.
I agree, and it was for less time too, but it was a doctors logic, one who did not sail.
Really, I mean can you image the FAA issuing a first class medical "within helicopter range?" Not only can a helicopter not reach me at FL430, but we cruise the "G" at .83 mach!!
Sounds me like colusion what when the MCA examiner makes the recommendations as to where you have to go to perform further diagnosis. I mean, there is no option for second opinions here!