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| Derecktor | 85.6M " AQUILA" ex. "Cakewalk" | 2010 |

Discussion in 'Unique, Custom or New Yachts' started by Yacht News, Jan 21, 2010.

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  1. Rene GER

    Rene GER Senior Member

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    What's about the rule of thumb "One million Euro per metre"? It is not up to date?
  2. K1W1

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    Hi,


    I would say that that number has been superseded well and truly once you get above 50m and by the time you reach 100m it will be double that or very close to it.
  3. Justus

    Justus Guest

    I think that the rules is for the
    60/70 meter class , my expirience.
  4. K1W1

    K1W1 Senior Member

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    Hi,

    Would you care to outline your real world experience with the costs associated with the building of a high quality motor yacht over 50m for everyone please?
  5. Justus

    Justus Guest

    You're right I have now experience in yacht new builds ,
    I thought at yachts at the brokerage market ,sorry.
  6. Ron Lorence

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    Cakewalk for Sale

    I think the bigger question is why is the owner selling after only having the yacht for about 8 months?

    The yacht took about 4 years to completion and now the Owner is selling?

    Seems strange to me.
  7. K1W1

    K1W1 Senior Member

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    Hi,

    Owners move their reasonably new yachts on for a number of reasons other than pure profit.

    Business or Family matters may have changed and the Owner needs to either cash up or downsize.

    He might not like the finished article which is a big beast and will come along with the costs associated with such a beast - he wouldn't be the first Owner to find out just how much these things cost to run.

    He might have decided it is time to get into a new project.
  8. AMG

    AMG YF Moderator

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    If it was me, I would have missed the stylish 62 m Feadship...
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    Hi,

    While it looked very nice from the outside, it sure had some big problems when it was new.
  10. Ron Lorence

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    Wondering, what was wrong with the Feadship 62m? And wondering how you found out about the problems?
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    K1W1 Senior Member

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    A lot of smaller things like any new boat but a huge problem with Generators.



    I am in the business as more than a keyboard operative and spotter.
  12. YachtForums

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    That's a minor understatement!
  13. Ron Lorence

    Ron Lorence New Member

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    Cakewalk Quality

    Just wondering, I though I read somewhere that some in the Boating Industry do not think that Cakewalk's quality is up to par. Is that correct? Some feel that it's not up to European standards.
  14. Marmot

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    Which are not always what we might believe them to be ...
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    K1W1 Senior Member

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    Hi,

    That statement can unfortunately be applied to more than just yacht building these days.
  16. YachtForums

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    In that brief summation, Marmot covers a broad spectrum and he's quite right. Prior to visiting a number of European yards, I was under the same assumption. The subject of this thread was no Cakewalk for Derecktor, but that boat will hold its own against many a Euro yard.
  17. Justus

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    I am shure that Derecktor can present as an american the same
    quality than european yards.
    Why do some persons think here that that isn't so?
  18. Marmot

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    Because image is more important than substance to some.

    Because there is still a certain aura that surrounds the names of old line European yards with a history of building the world's most elegant and famous yachts. It is difficult to compare build quality when emotion is such a large part of the equation.

    Because the name of at least one EU yard is actually used in contracts as a measure of quality. The fact is that one of the worst examples of not just quality but ethics I have seen recently came from a yard with what most of us consider(ed) an unimpeachable pedigree.

    Personally, I am very impressed with what I saw on Cakewalk before and after it was launched. Derecktor doesn't take a back seat to any builder as far as I am concerned. If there are owner spec'd and contractor supplied items that are not working out well, that problem probably has roots in other areas.
  19. Justus

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    Yea I agree with you , for me it seems that as well possible that
    Cakewalk was built by Lurssen or Oceanco.
    I think it's stupid to judge a yard after her age etc.
    I distracted from the main topic, so lets get back to them..
  20. K1W1

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    Hi,

    Justus, I hope your work experience is going well.

    To make to the top of your chosen field in the yacht business English language skills are as important as the other subjects you have to study.

    The Cakewalk referred to in this thread was built in the US not in Germany or Holland.