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Costa Concordia sinks off the coast of Italy

Discussion in 'YachtForums Yacht Club' started by Fishtigua, Jan 14, 2012.

  1. K1W1

    K1W1 Senior Member

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    Hi,

    There are supposed to be at least two floating cranes in Europe that can lift over 7000 tons each so the gear is available it is just a case of the use to which it is best put.

    I am curious about your freezing idea Ron. Would you like to e mail it to me to have a butchers at?
  2. RonLL

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    First, 14,000 tons, compared to 115,000 tons, would suggest sections of a scrap operation.
    My first vision of mind was floating the ship with a total mass of ice, but then it would be so locked to the rocky bottom there would be no hope of moving the frozen mass, not to mention time and cost of developing a mass that big, of solid ice.

    It will take a little time for me to type the basics of what I think can work, but yes I will be glad to share with you, my thoughts.

    Ron
  3. K1W1

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    Hi,

    The ship itself doesn't weigh 115,000 tons, that is a volumetric measurement used in the marine world.
  4. RonLL

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    Yes, I failed to consider proper prospective,:eek: but dead weight with no buoyancy and any water that is pulled above sea level, I have no clue, but I do know it will be heavy.;)

    Ron
  5. dennismc

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    I suspect they will have to "sink it to raise it"...seal off as many deck levels as they can, filled with inflatable bags, patch the holes slide it off the reef, inflate and pray....my 2c..
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  7. RonLL

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    Made me look like a paint spray gun again:D
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    Another thought this morning, not being an expert about safety with Liquid Nitrogen, Can some controlled amount be injected directly into water and not have a violent reaction ?, in addition to cooling coils for control of maintaining a frozen solid, this might be a method of very fast freezing of such a large mass of water.
    It would seem to make the idea more of a successful approach to such a monumental task.

    Ron
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    There is a tv special on the Discovery channel, Sunday at 9:00 pm central about the sinking.
  10. Capt. Mike

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    I think if they repair the hole and then get a few of these cranes on both sides the should be able to reflote her. But then again not sure if they have enough marine cranes around there to do the job. You get enough power you can lift anything. A problem could be is the depth around her.
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    buy stock in a ping pong ball company...:D
  12. Capt J

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    If it was that easy, they would've done it already..........
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    I would think removing fuel and stabilizing her would be big deals before anybody started any patching or welding.
    I'd hate to be the guy (with a band-aid in hand) to even step on that hulk and it roll over some more.
  14. Capt J

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    Yeah, but it's already going on 6 weeks and they don't even have the fuel out of her......
  15. NYCAP123

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    It's a slow process. They have to keep her stable as they still have people inside searching for bodies. I believe they just found 8 more yesterday or today.
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    Interesting that they say she has slipped.

    I know it isn't an exact science - but I have been monitoring the webcam closely, especially the distance between the sea surface and the upper superstructure and (allowing for the small Mediterranean tidal flow) have seen no change at all.

    WebCam Giglio Porto Panoramica | isola-del-giglio | webcam

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    If you're inside a slip of an inch will scare the c--- out of you, because it could be the start of a roll off the shelf. Hardly something you'd see on the webcam.
  19. ArcanisX

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    Take a brief look at her position. Welding up the entire starboard side up to topmost windows will prove... difficult.
  20. revdcs

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    Hi Ed,

    In my younger days I was a commercial diver and have been inside a wreck that moved - and I know - it is terrifying!

    I made my comment above because the BBC article indicates that the vessel has moved quite a bit further down the slope from it's original position. Given that amount of movement, we would expect the upper superstructure to at least be getting wet, or to be submerged - but there is no indication of that on the webcam.