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Capitol HE-10200 transmission (wanted)

Discussion in 'Chris Craft Roamer: Buy/Sell/Trade' started by P46-Curaçao, May 11, 2014.

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  1. P46-Curaçao, May 11, 2014
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    P46-Curaçao Senior Member

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    Hi, I'm looking for a Capitol HE-10200 transmission (prefer 1.5:1 ratio), hope you have still something in your garage, YF friends!
  2. P46-Curaçao, May 15, 2014
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    Nobody?
  3. Capt Ralph, May 15, 2014
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    Hopefully this is not for you.
    Tap on Gold Coast power if you can.
    ,rc
  4. P46-Curaçao, May 15, 2014
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    Yep, within some time I need one!

    Shipping it to the US (from Curacao) is a challenge, so I'm looking for a new, rebuild or rebuild able one to exchange within a reasonable time instead of waiting for many months, with my boat on the dry…

    I’m also willing to pay a core charge, but I need some time to return it!

    Once in a while pleasure boats go back to the US, and they carry many cores…
  5. Capt Ralph, May 15, 2014
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    I'm not too familiar with Capital clutches so please excuse my limit of sight, BUT; Are there any more specs or build data you may pass? Serial number? Exact ratio? Case height (short, deep)? Any down angle? Flange / coupler specs?

    When I start asking about equipment, usually a wall of questions like these and more come back.

    I'll start checking around.

    ,rc
  6. Capt Ralph, May 15, 2014
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    From the first manual I found;

    4HE 10200 & 10700
    2HE 10200 & 10700
    HE 11200& 11700
    THIS GROUP OF TRANSMISSIONS FORM THREE GENERATIONS OF THE
    HE DROP CENTER MODEL. ALL UNITS HAVE A NUMBER OF COMMON
    PARTS.
    THE MOST NOTABLE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN MODELS ARE UNIQUE
    ENGINE ADAPTATION, PUMP DRIVE SHAFT & PUMP, CLUTCH ASSEMBLY,
    FORWARD DRIVING DRUM, DRIVE FLANGE ASSEMBLY & CONTROL
    VALVE BASE PLATE.
    IT IS ALWAYS VERY ADVENTAGEOUS TO KNOW WHICH MODEL YOU
    HAVE!
  7. P46-Curaçao, May 16, 2014
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    It's a 1981 Capitol HE 10200, picture is not so clear, but make a new one today.
    Ratio is 1.5:1

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  8. PacBlue, May 16, 2014
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    Here is a start:

    MPI Capitol Gears - new and used parts and units


    It is certainly a challenge to find support for Capitol Gears, I think there is also someone out East who can rebuild them, but the name escapes me at the moment.

    There may come a time when you have to do the financial analysis to switch them to a ZF gear, which can still be supported with parts and service.
  9. P46-Curaçao, May 17, 2014
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    It's certainly a challenge to find these Capitol Gears, but I hope there are still some left, somewhere in a corner maybe?
  10. dsharp, May 17, 2014
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    Check the "Boats and Harbors" website. They usually have a few leads.
  11. P46-Curaçao, May 17, 2014
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    Will do, thnx!
  12. Capt J, May 17, 2014
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    Well there's 2 ways to look at it. You could spend your time hunting for 1 gear to replace the long obsolete gear that grenaded. Then, always wonder how long the other gear is going to last before it too grenades. OR, you could bite the bullet now and switch to ZF or Twin Disc, and have 1 good Capital gear to sell to someone and know you have 2 gears that are going to last......
  13. P46-Curaçao, May 17, 2014
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    Maybe you are right Capt J, how difficult would that be, and any idea about ZF/TD model and costs?
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    No idea on model and costs, but I'm sure one of the 2 manufacturers has a model that wouldn't require a TON of changes. Post on the Post forum and see what the Post owners have to say.......
  15. PacBlue, May 17, 2014
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    A couple of years ago looked into rebuilding a pair of Capitol gears and was quoted something like $10K - $12K each, depending on condition. Capt J is right on, spending money on an obsolete gear is a dead end and the second gear will most likely face the same issues.

    If the boat is in your long term plans, invest in a ZF gear as a replacement, you will be better off in the long run. ZF North American headquarters is in Florida, making it that much better for your service/spare parts needs. Unfortunately, I do not think you will find a direct bolt-in replacement, and may have to modify stringer mount locations, especially vertically (up or down).

    The selection of Capitol gears by boat manufacturers in your era was essentially a cost saving decision on their part. It is a light duty piece of equipment and Capitol Gear eventually lost out to their competitors and folded.
  16. dsharp, May 17, 2014
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    There's a pair of Twin Disc 5075's 1.5 to 1 on the Boat Diesel site for $4750.00 each. Do you have 903 Cummins in your boat?
  17. K1W1, May 18, 2014
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    Hi,

    From what he has posted previously he has 6-71's
  18. P46-Curaçao, May 18, 2014
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    No, I have 6-71 Detroits
  19. PacBlue, Jun 10, 2014
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    Found a source for Capitol Transmission Repair / Service / Rebuilds.

    Marine Transmission Repair

    Have not used them, but they seemed to have the best information during my investigation for rebuilding Capitol Marine Gears.
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    Thnx PacBlue, I will contact them if I find cores...(still searching)
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