(1) "What does me being out on one or out on one at sea have to do with anything? How does it have relevance to anything being discussed at all???" Because I have successfully concluded 19 Cape Horn sales, attended survey and sea trial on 16 of them, and have been to the Cape Horn yards numerous times. I am still in contact with almost every owner and previous owner from a 20 year history. I can factually substantiate almost every opinion that I share. And that's my point. I am trying to share informed knowledge and experience to help anyone reading these posts but unfortunately the information and facts get muddled with extraneous non-CH experienced opinions. For example: (2)"Didn't the last owner of Cape Horn build the last/final 3 or 4 boats in Asia???" As specified in my post #139, all Cape Horn trawlers were built at the 3 Canadian yards stated. NONE were built in China.