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Burger yachts from the late 1950's

Discussion in 'Burger Yacht' started by CapCurmudgeon, Apr 14, 2022.

  1. CapCurmudgeon

    CapCurmudgeon New Member

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    Does anyone know if the hull design for the 60' series is a displacement or semidisplacement?
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    rtrafford Senior Member

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    Most often it was semi. The '63 65 foot SS design had hard chines aft. With 6-71N they'd see 14 knots. Swap out to modern iron, and I think you'd have something that could scoot.
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    rtrafford Senior Member

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    Write up at launch of a gal that blessed our family for a period of time.

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    rtrafford Senior Member

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    Article boasts 15 knots. I can attest to the 14 I mentioned.
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    In fact, there's one sitting in the midwest now, close to the Burger yard that would make for a really good modern remake. The listing also shows you some of the lines of the hull. Soft entry, but hard chines begin midship.

    https://www.yachtworld.com/yacht/1958-burger-65-pilothouse-8154459/

    Sorry, just having a fun moment with your question, running with my imagination...
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    Oh, That is sweet.
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    I sold that boat a number of years ago. She would make a good candidate for a full refit and modernization while keeping her looking like a Classic Yacht.
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    Id actually be inclined to take it on, and given its location, I'd do it with Burger directly.
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    Very close to her original home! I seem to recall she was originally built for the owners of Playsckool Toys.
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    Just looking through the photos, she'd make a terrific and complete gut at the Burger yard, refitting with modern iron for the ability to fast cruise. Yeah, I'd do it.
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    How much do you thibk it would take " modernize " that boat ? Seems to me that it would need to be a labor of love.

    I love those boat too but I dont think I'd do it.

    I looked hard at the First Lady when she was in my marina and although it was nice, it needed too much for my liking right now.

    Maybe if I were retired...... C.R. ?
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    Well, your big budget items are the engine room and the paint. If you shop well for rebuilt modern engines, you'll probably spend $350k in the ER between iron, gensets, and electrical as well as running gear. You'll spend another $300k to take the paint back, check metal, and refinish the paint and brightwork.

    So, in a nutshell it's a $1-1.25mm project if done right and managed well. She'd value at $1.5mm and cost $4mm to replace. But she'd be better than anything you bought used for $1mm.
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    What if the bottom is ''thin'' in many spots? Doesn't that change things? Would the entire bottom have to be re-plated ( new metal sheets) or what ever it's called...is that a big deal? I would think so. But I'm out of my league on any type of metal vessel.
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    Any plating repairs are simple and straight forward. Issues would typically be found at water or black tanks.

    No big deal.
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    I enjoy your attitude on here.(and knowledge).
    Just do it , get it done! And don’t worry.

    Good to know it’s not a difficult job.
    As long as you or the yard you choose is geared to really do that kind of work.
    Of course Burger would be…

    I share the same attitude. Stop looking at it and get it done .

    All of my DIY boat renovations, for me must have good “bones” and “fair “ running/working engines , generator. I’m not to good with the motors, nor can I really afford new ones,but can handle all the cosmetic and mechanical systems work myself.
    So in a nutshell all my boats have been running floating, P.O.S.’s but I pretty them up over time . Lol.
    I get enjoyment and pride of ownership out of all of them.

    But I’ve had a few sleepless nights worrying how I’m going to tackle certain jobs on my two boats.

    I’ve always liked Burgers . They have the look I like.
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    Yeah, just get it done. If you can, do it better than it was done the first time. In this case she’s quite old, so likely will find plenty. Good news, go after her ER through the hull then rebuild on your way out.

    I’ve done these projects several times. Always learn a lot. This last time needed to rebuild the ER keel skin and associated plating (alum), and in doing so my take away was that it was easier than fiberglass. Blessed by good welders at Derecktor. With this one I’d go to Burger with her. Take her home and come out with a new boat for pennies on a big dollar. Outcome should be amazing.
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    But your underlying point is key. Choose your talent well when choosing a team to do the work.
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    I have seen this boat down in Alabama years ago she was having some bottom work replacement of some steal on the bottom
    another classic for sure.
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    We had a team from burger look at her a few years ago and they told us 250k just to get the bottom done she will be 7 figures plus to get her looking great again ,
    . I have done this on similar Boats
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    Yes, I can see 7 figures, but I don't think it needs to go very far beyond that decimal point. Choose your iron wisely. That's the first big ticket. Honestly, I see the bottom plain as merely a rounding of the budget. Big numbers that get you to the 1mm mark are iron (both eng and gen), electrical, hvac, and paint.