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BMW Designs a performance cruiser yacht

Discussion in 'General Sailing Discussion' started by Rene GER, Jan 14, 2009.

  1. PFJW

    PFJW New Member

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    There are also yachts from any number of UK based yacht design companies that employ Coventry University automotive-based design course graduates - H2 yacht design, Rainsford Saunders, Andrew Winch Designs IIRC, Reymond Langton Designs, Bjorn Johansson, Adam Lay, Tony Castro, Sunseeker, Fairline...

    So, obviously, not all "car designers" make bad yacht designers.
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    Thank you, this explains a lot....;)
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    sorry my money is still with this new bmw boat, all the other brands are to conservative in styling, i feel this is why this boat is styled the way it is. u cant bring in a boat that looks like the rest and expect to catchup, plus u have a new generation coming through and customers are wanting to make a individual statement... and thus not go and anchor next to 20 other jeanneaus etc etc.... comments?:D
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    I think you are absolutely correct in this accessment. However you want to come in a step above, not below. I still think that the exterior is nice, but not all that different and the interior just looks cheap.
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    I apologise again for my refusal to enter into the spirit of overwhelming negativity and dismissal of other people's hard work and success, but yes; it explains why they are all very successful and respected design firms.
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    ... maybe any yacht designers out there should put a concept together for a BMW :rolleyes:
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    Looks like auto design

    It looks like a car design with knuckle on hull and cabin house. But generally very good looking design and I really like interior theme.
    I don't think this is designed by BMW motor company directly.
    The well known Fearless 28 is not designed Porsche motor company directly. It was just from Porsche deisgn firm which does all industry design such as watches, shoes, cell phones and etc.

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    Companies are very careful where their names appear. I'm sure they wouldn't mind taking credit if it was well received and to some I suppose it is. When you put your name on something you take the rep good or bad.
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    sail boats should not have sharp corners

    I can see that they've tried to have a crisp interior, which looks ok and can even be atttractive for some, but having so many sharp edges/corners is not safe in a sail boat.
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    It looks quite heavy for racing against the TP52 s or the new Farr 55 s(quite an interesting boat,two hulls produced so far) and short in length to compete against the maxi yachts in other races... For me it's hard to see what this yacht will be used for exactly.

    A Farr 40 will achieve the same downwind speeds with a good crew.

    IMHO Nautor Swan 60 or 66 FD are much better choices...

    Note: As said before,

    Cheers
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    I saw the pictures before I saw the comments, and I thought, that looks amazing, I love the interior design. Then I saw the comments, and went back thinking perhaps I had missed something important. Sorry, I still don't see the flaws. I love the fabric, wood, color scheme, layout, and style. What I like even more, is how it all goes together nicely, though they all vary a bit from eachother.
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    NYCAP123, or anyone, what would u change in the interior? i have an itch with that forward bulkhead in the main cabin... comments?

    far
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    I am not a designer so I'll have a hard time conveying my feelings in this regard but I'll try. 1) I would lose the sharp edges. They look wrong on a boat and are a hazard. 2) I would use richer looking woods with some accents. 3) I would use more textures and colors in the fabrics. The seating reminds me of an 80's multi-purpose foam seat that would fold out into a "bed" you could loosely call it. More like something you could lay out on. It cost about $20 and was good in the summer cottage. 4) I would change those doors to wood or at the very least add accent colors or trim. 5) there should be a lip added to the ledge below the portals as on the desk and table. 6) Add some kind of texture or trim to the compartments above the portals. 7) I would not use the same light color in the floors and all other woods surfaces. In fact I would not use the same woods for both unless possibly if they were darker. 8) I would not use the same gray color scheme throughout the entire boat with no accents or trim. Gray is a very dangerous color, boring. You can often get away with whites, vibrant colors and neutral colors, but colors like gray, Army green, dark brown and some others just don't work except as one of the colors (accent). 9) That upswept wing on the side of the slaon seps is a hazard as is that short hand rail. It leaves your hands with 3 to 4 steps left going down.
    Let me shorten this. The entire interior looks like its washed out. The wood surfaces look like Formica. There is no change in decor from one space to another. It reminds me of an RV or a cheap, modern design from the 70's. There is just no "richness" to the feel. Again, I'm no designer, but if I launched a new boat line in these times (especially putting a name like BMW on it) I'd be shooting for spectacular, not "it looks nice".
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    NYCAP123, its great to get a straight answer like that, i thank u for the detail. so to some it up, u hate the colours... i would have to agree, and as i was saying early in the thread that im pretty sure the boat would come with an options list. the colours do take me back to the 80's including those yellow cups on the table... i feel as though i need to grow a mullet or something.
    just in regards to the sharp edges, is it all boats that u feel it shouldnt be on, or just the smaller boats? i think it does look smart but maybe on a larger boat, and i didnt think of it as a hazard (good call, and i think someone else made the same comment). its one comment i havent heard of (u learn something new everyday). and lips and trims it does need to. for me i hope to design a few boats of my own in the near future as a profession, and soon chuck a couple on yachtforums and hopefully get some good feed back like yours, good or bad, need to take it all in.

    cheers, far:D
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    As someone who has opened more body parts and spilled more blood that I thought a person had I'd have to say no sharp edges on anything that rocks.
    Option lists seldom include different seating, woods and doors. Mediocrocy is fine if that's what you're shooting for, but these are foolish times to launch that and don't do it with a name like BMW. From them you expect things like 'Oracle'.
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    Porsche Design also in the act:

    Royal Falcon Fleet, based in Singapore, have an exciting project, the RFF135. The RFF135 is a motor catamaran designed by Porsche Design and currently under construction.

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    Well, at least it doesn't have iDrive so there's some hope for it.
    More information and less colourful images at:
    http://www.zeydon.com/zseries/introduction.aspx

    Wouldn't want to be attempting a move anywhere in the interior while in any sort of a sea. Nothing to grab on to and too many sharp edges.

    If it performs well they'll sell a few.
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    I was having a look at the Bavaria 46 powerboat by BMW design. The only good thing about it was the price. I also got a presentation from the Coventry University we talked about in this thread and my reaction is that a new yacht design school could be a good biz, if only the industry will take on new designers...
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    Another car design(er) on water?! ... 'Red Sula' is an exciting and sophisticated yacht built by the Dutch shipyard Jongert– a yacht designed by Tony Castro and Giugiaro- her beautifully elegant lines inspired by the Audi TT.

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