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Back up anchor winch ?

Discussion in 'Technical Discussion' started by Pascal, Aug 16, 2026 at 11:24 AM.

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  1. Pascal

    Pascal Senior Member

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    The boat I run has a pair of hydraulic windlasses which get pressure from the main hydraulic system. It has a pump on each main plus one on the stbd gen. The system runs the bow thruster, windlasses and stab. Forward hydraulics are activated with a solenoid valve.

    Loosing the thruster and stabs in most circumstances is no big deal… but loosing the windlass when anchor is down is a problem. One that I have considered on and off but never did anything about.

    yesterday we were anchored out here close to home and the solenoid valve failed when I activated the forward hydraulics. No way to get the 200 lbs anchor up. At least I was using the back up anchor and not the primary 400 pounder…

    ended up dropping all chain and cutting the safety line. Anchor and chain is in 8’ of water so going back for won’t be a problem once we get the hydraulics repaired

    So a back up solution is now on the front burner. What are you guys using with anchors that cannot be raised by hand?

    I m thinking about getting a 120 v cable hoist like those use in garages. Capacity is plenty to raise a 400 lbs anchor and chain. It could be attached with a strap to the midship cleat providing about 30’ of distance allowing us to raise the anchor 30’ at a time. We rarely anchor in more than 15-30’ of water.

    using the davit on the top deck isn’t really feasible as it would mean having someone go in the water to attach the lifting hook while hovering with the engines. No way.

    any ideas?
  2. Capt Ralph

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    There is not a provision for a hand crank or bar on the gypsy?
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    Don’t think so… I ll check the manual again but if there was you d need a 10’ crank to raise a 400 pounder :)
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    One of my foot "up" switches flooded with water, shorted the switch and burned up the Lofrans motor.
    Not realized this I till went to lower the anchor, at the NAS Jax air show, with a boat load of people.
    I was expecting a real hard time pulling up lots of 1/2" chain and a big ultra anchor until I had to give it a try..
    The factory 2' clutch/gypsy handle worked super easy.
    The small chain sprocket and 2' lever was actually easy and not to slow.

    Reminder to self & lessons learned;
    1: Turn off windlass battery when not in use.
    2: Do not oversize the ANL fuse.
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  5. Pascal

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    I ve pulled anchors up to 65lbs by hand… that’s about as much as I can handle. And I expect this to drop by 2 lbs with every year of aging

    Years ago moisture in the foot switch caused my windlass to raise anchor at about 4 am. I heard it all the way from the master. And anchor was at the water line by the time I reached the breaker…

    yesterday to make things worst, that windlass freefall didn’t release. We test the main windlass freefall every couple of months but not the back up. Had to bang on the gypsy to get enough slack to pull the chain off. And then… it turned out and of the chain at the bottom of the pile was all rusted up and had turned into a solid ball. Had to bang it with a 5lbs hammer to break it up. Yep… since we never use that small anchor… lesson learned again. From now on it will tested every couple of months

    it’s never a single failure but always a chain of them.
  6. Capt Ralph

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    Amen brother..
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    I honestly don't think there is another way. I recently recovered a 110lb anchor with 25' of 1/2" chain. It was near impossible for 2 of us to get it into the dinghy, luckily the big boat was close by and I was able to get it into the windlass and use that to get it on deck. I couldn't think of another way, that stuff is HEAVY. Once on deck there would be no way to move it around safely, especially without destroying stuff.

    OTOH, I think you had a once in a lifetime fluke that happened and will probably never experience it again. I had a foot switch short out at the dock once at 6am with the owners 15 and 17 year old daughters sleeping in the cabin underneath it. EVERYONE got woken up and came running out within seconds it was so noisy. LOL
  8. Pascal

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    Well that valve had failed and was replaced a year ago so that’s twice in lifetime. So far. First time around it happened coming back when the thruster didn’t engage, no big deal.

    with hydraulics there can be a dozen of various failures points, hoses and fittings, etc. In the last five years I ve also had 3 pressure gauges failing and leaking… I ve now removed all of the gauges and replaced them with quick disconnects so we can hook up a gauge for troubleshooting. I always carry 2 pails of fluid on board just in case :)
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    You have one pump on one engine? No way to rig a back-up on the other engine or PTO on a gen-set?
    Seems your having repeat starter and valve issues;;; why is this??