Another Newb ? on which boat to buy

Hi,

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Do you realise that a 40 to 60 nm offshore trip is an 80 to 120nm return journey.

6 People in a 33 to 40ft boat on an overnighter does sound kinda tight at best.

As I don't know much aboutn these type boats I will wish you luck and am sure someone with more knowledge on these things will reply to your post.

Egg Harbor- Excellant boat. Not so thrilled with Silvertons although they did have a nice 38' aft cabin in the late 80's. With a SF or convertable you'll give up creature comforts like interior space, laders to the bridge instead of steps, and storage. Instead you'll get more speed (That era SF often cruises at about 18 kts; trawlers 8-10kts. SF & Sedans will burn more fuel than trawlers. Trawlers in that size and era will often be single screw and with 6 pax. I doubt you'll want to deal with the skill level needed to maneuver and dock. At that price point I go back to my 1st 2 sentances. Egg if you decide on a SF or the 38' aft cabin Silverton if you're looking more for family cruising. Good luck

the search

I've been in market for about 3-4 months now, although a totally different style of boat/requirements.

I'd suggest that if you haven't already done so, get into Yachtworld and just start looking at every type of boat out there and see how it matches up with your needs. Originally I thought I wanted a Hatteras ACMY (Fleming's are out of my price range ), ends up there are other boats that will be a better fit. Get to know what type of engines are going to match your needs. Talk with brokers, owners....get on as many boats as possible, ask questions, and most of all....enjoy the process!

The more you learn, the more questions and then the more direction you'll be able to give yourself.

Both Edd Harbor and Silverton (both built in New Jersey) have pretty good web sites.
http://www.eggharboryachts.com/index.shtml
http://www.silverton.com/

They also tend to ride more stable when going slow or at anchor. Some are extremely good in rough water. However, where with an 18kt boat you'll run for inland water in rough weather a trawler may have you putting your nose into the wind and riding it out. Different styles, both fun. Depends what you're into. Keeping mamma happy is paramount. No joke there.

I would skip Silverton Entirely. There are several different Sportfish in your price range and size to look at. Bertram 35's and 38's. Viking 35's and 41's. Hatteras 36'. Etc. Etc.

Come walk the broker docks at South Shore, and just crawl around on some different styles.
I thought I wanted a trawler until I set foot on my Pace 36 Sportfish. I can fish, cruise, party, sleep etc as good as any. With a diesel SF, you can cruise at trawler speed, (1000-1200rpm, 6-8 knots) and get 2.5-4 mpg. But you have the option of jumping up to 24-30 knots to run from a t-storm or get a hurt passenger back to civilization quickly. Best of both worlds.

My slip at SSH is $350 plus electric (15-25 bucks)... Full floaters, well protected, NO LOSSES IN IKE!

My insurance runs 1400 a year.

Don't forget to check National Liquidators. There are a lot of repo boats going for a song including madoff's 56' Rybo.

IMO.

50-60 miles each way is a bit far to be ranging in a Silverton. It is a decent, inexpensive boat delivering alot for the money but it is not a heavily built offshore boat. Eggs of that vintage are good boats but there are a few years where rot can be an issue as they used alot of wood. Surveys are essential.

Lots of 41 Vikings around due to a long production run. Diesels over gas for sure on anything 35 feet and up. Consider cruising speed and fuel burn when thinking about regular offshore trips.

Good advice here about surfing Yachtworld and National Liquidators. Get out and crawl around in a few models. The search can be fun.

My .02

The cabin on any boat is suseptable to filling with carbon monoxide if the salon door is open and proper venilation is not provided. That's more likely to happen on that GW than on a 40'SF as the 40 is likely airconditioned or has a hatch high enough to open without taking in the seas. Sea sickness is another story. When it comes the cabin is not the place to be. So the short story is that those people ar wrong.
On several boats I've captained the kids spend the entire trip in the cabin watching TV or playing video games.

To add to what NYCAP has said, what they are referring to is the "station wagon effect". Without a hatch open for ventilation and with a rear salon door open, exhaust will be sucked back toward the boat and potentially into the cabin. Side and underwater exhaust reduces this issue and proper ventilation eliminates it.

Carbon monoxide detectors are a must in any case.

I never saw it as an issue on my gas or diesel convertibles.

That is completely false. My sons(and even me sometimes) go to the salon to watch TV or just sit around while we're on a long 2-4 hour trip, and my wife spends the time in the side master. It's perfectly fine to be inside while navigating in a SF.

As for recommendations, I'd recommend Bertrams made in the 80's. They were among the best boats at the time(and I would know, I've owned 2)