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advice on quality of build, 1986 Viking 48' convertible

Discussion in 'Viking Yacht' started by Stephen L, Jul 25, 2020.

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  1. Capt Ralph

    Capt Ralph Senior Member

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    Look at the size of that cockpit. WOW. Near dance floor size.
    Never rigged for salt water fishing (out-riggers). Big plus.
    Please, please survey the motors very well and keep you foot off the throttles if you purchase.
    Anchor, chain and windlass look wimpy.

    Get the meanest surveyors you can find.
  2. Stephen L

    Stephen L New Member

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    i had the same thought/concern. The salesperson at JBYS hasnt called me back to address this. They do have a Canadian location, so they could possibly get it there, but i may be asked to make a commitment sight unseen, as one of the other members suggests. I will be looking for an independent and "mean" surveyor in the area. please let me know if anyone knows of one.
  3. Stephen L

    Stephen L New Member

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    i like this advice. i am looking for a "mean" surveyor. thanks!
  4. MBevins

    MBevins Senior Member

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    Jack Morman has done my Viking twice. (Owned it a long time).
    He is very thorough.

    http://mormanmarinesurveyors.com/
  5. RER

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    What is a "mean" surveyor going to do for you? I would suggest a qualified competent and accredited surveyor who will exercise fair and reasonable judgement.
    What I mean by this is I've seen "mean" surveyors go completely overboard and basically beat the living daylights out of a boat. The buyer gets scared off from a boat that actually had no more than the usual survey deficiencies and nobody is happy.
    I've also seen where the buyer thinks he's going to use a loaded up survey to beat the seller down on price. He buys the boat, turns the survey over to the insurance company, and now guess what? He's got to cure all 145 deficiencies in order to maintain coverage even though 100 of them should have been categorized simply under notes & observations. So be careful what you wish for.
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  6. Stephen L

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    good things to consider. thanks
  7. Stephen L

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    thanks. i will check Jack out. cheers
  8. bayoubud

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    Agree, a surveyor that wants to redesign and rebuild the boat will run off most any buyer. Nothing wrong with a thorough hull and engine survey, not all surveyors provide that. Hire the best you can justify, it can save a lot of surprises after you close.
  9. MBevins

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    Also since I'm assuming you have Detroit's I can give you the name of the guy that rebuilt mine .
    Aldo in the area.
  10. Capt Ralph

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    Guys
    You know me and you exactly what I meant. Making up bad waves is not doing anybody any good.
    Leave the OP alone and beat up me if you don't like my verbiage.

    When you purchase any thing mechanical, especially if your away, you want to know everything. No pussy lil survey, I would want to know every bad hose and bad hose clamp on that boat. Every rusty screw on that boat. Every bad crimp on that boat. Where every rust stain came from. Every bad window gasket. Every lay of caulk that looks poor.
    Yes, I want a POd surveyor. Pull out that thermal gun. Pull out that IR camera on the hull, batteries and wires. Snake cameras are used today. Bring them on...
    Put that IR camera to use on the power wires to the VHF radio when TXing. Also on the radar.
    I want some heavy guy or two swinging on the arch, mast or gin pole. I want to see that windlass pay out and pick up a couple of yard guys. How far did that pulpit bend down?
    When you have a whole truth of it's condition, the best picture you can get, on paper, in front of you,,then the OP can evaluate if the boat is worth his money.

    exercise fair and reasonable judgement

    Where is the start / stop line on this. Written in the bilge some ware just before that bad & hidden bilge pump crimp is hiding?
    Again for me, I would want the most complete non-destructive survey and inspection I can get in two days. Not only is my money at risk, lives could be threatened.

    Deal or not, the safety of the OP and his family may reside on a real deep survey.

    Nuf said or do I need to type slower?

    Anybody that has anything to swing also knows there are two surveys, one for the purchase and one for the insurance company.
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  11. Capt Ralph

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    Oh, The same goes on the engines.

    Have a nice day :):):)
  12. Stephen L

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    thanks Ralph. this makes good sense to me. I appreciate the input and experience
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    Jack Morman surveyed a boat I ended up buying. I thought he was first rate.