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adaptation to MCA small craft code MGN 280

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  1. woofwoof

    woofwoof New Member

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    Hi, we're buying a new cat and will not be using it commercially. The boat manufacturer has got the option for adaptation to MCA small craft code MGN 280. My question is if we don't choose this option will a next owner still be able to adapt the boat accordingly without any major costs in case they do want to use it commercially?
  2. Fishtigua

    Fishtigua Senior Member

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    Depending on the cost difference, adding a MCA rating will add greatly to the boat's resale value.
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    Fish has a great thought.
    However, I always thought these codes helped on work, crew and heavy commercial small craft (under 24M).
    IE; supply or pilot craft.
    You may want to dig deeper into this as it may or may not refer to charter and rec passenger levels as that could always help in your resale.
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    Thank you for your reply. It is almost US$60,000, is it going to be a lot easier to do while they’re building the boat or would it be an easy enough upgrade later on for that amount spent?
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    Will do, thank you.
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    It's a slightly "how long is a piece of string" question because it depends on what is different between the standard build and the mgn280 build. Just as an example, mgn280 may require engine vent closers to make the engine room airtight in a fire, and many boats already have this in their standard spec, and many don't.

    I say "may" because despite the clear terms of mgn280 you see lots of variance between different surveyors (who sign off) about what is needed.

    You should get a list of what the builder does to get from standard spec to mgn280 and see if its good value/retrofittable. A lot of it will be just buying loose stuff (LJs, LRs, loose safety gear).

    I wouldn't code to mgn280; I'd code to Yellow Book. Personal choice (and you do have a free choice, despite many builders/surveyors acting like mgn280 is the only choice). But that's a whole nuther topic.
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    But will you be increasing or decreasing your resale buyer pool. Are there more buyers looking and being willing to pay for the MCA rating, especially as the vessel ages, or more who would rather get the boat cheaper. For some the thought that a boat may have been used commercially could be a turn off.
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  8. woofwoof

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    Thank you JFM, great reply. Will get into the specifics with the builder.
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    Yes, commercial use is a turn off for me and many others except of course charter businesses. Will likely leave the rating but would still like to know what exactly the builder does for the rating. Thank you for your reply, it was helpful.
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    Please keep us up on the details as you discover them.
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    There's been a Bluewater down in Miami for decades that was certified for 49. Back in the day a company rep told me one thing was fire retardant resin.
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  12. woofwoof

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    Will do, if the builder is ok with that.