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  1. DOCKMASTER

    DOCKMASTER Senior Member

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    What make/model of binoculars to use on your boats? Do you strictly use marine type binos? What do you like and why? My 7x50 West Marine binos are in need of replacing as one side is getting blurry and cleaning the lenses isn’t correcting it. So I thought I would see what you all like before ordering a new pair. Thanks in advance for your input.
  2. mapism

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    Years ago I bought a Fujinon TechnoStabi 14x40, more because I found it on sale at a (relatively) reasonable price, than out of any real need.
    And I can confirm that it's outstanding for watching anything very far away, with a stabilization system which imho is even better than the highly praised Canon 15x50.

    But I've got also a lower magnification and non-stabilized Steiner 7x50 Navigator, which in practice I use much more frequently.
    In fact, its image quality is even superior, particularly in low light, and superfast (no need to fiddle with focus).
    Besides, it's much less bulky than any stabilized binos, and needs no batteries.
    Unless you need more than 7x magnification (which is what makes stabilization almost necessary), I can safely recommend it.
  3. Ken Bracewell

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    I always have:
    Steiner Navigator Pro 7x50
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    Canon Image Stabilizer 18x50
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    Canon 10x30 IS II, light, stabilized, uses 2xAA batteries that last a long time. Very happy with them.
    Never use my hi powered binocs any more. I'm looking at stuff 500yds away or closer.
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    Norseman Senior Member

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    I like these, not stabilized but I still have a steady hand.:cool:

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    I have the West Marine version of the Steiner. Works great. Adjust to your eyes once. Looks very similar to the Steiner. I wonder what the Steiner has for the extra cost.
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    I remember dropping my 2 year old West Marine binoculars 15 years ago. One mono went straight, the other to Mars.
    Store replaced them with the last of the same model.

    These have lasted 15 years fine. Lens covers have long dissolved but the glasses still work great.
    Just used them an hour ago coming in St Augustine inlet.
    Not a clue who made them but has worked so well these very many years.
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    I had a few West Marine Binos, but didn't know they had a Steiner version?
    I Chinese copy, or the real thing with a WM tag on it?

    I was given a real Steiner some years ago after I helped a widow with her boat after hubby had a hearth attack, but didn't really need that kind of high end binoculars when I still had bills to pay and sold them on eBay for almost full price, to a German boater of all things. (Even with air freight and insurance it was cheaper than buying them in Europe)

    My West Marine $65 glasses never lasted long but did the job the few times I used them.
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    Mine were not the bottom of the money line, near the top, just no compass.
    Still cheaper than the big name brands.
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    Good for you but I had no idea WM had several money lines of binoculars.
    I bought the lower end then I guess and they fogged up inside or something after 2-3 years, but then again, they worked while they lasted.
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    My wife bought me a pair of Steiner Admiral
    7X50 for Christmas in 1988. The rubberized coating shows a little cosmetic wear from handling but optics are perfect. They are on the flybridge today.
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    Did you ever try a Steiner side to side with a WM or any other chinese binos?
    Any binos does its job decently, it's only when you compare them with the really good ones that you can see (literally!) the difference.
    And by good ones I don't mean only Steiner, there are also others equally good if not even better - but proportionally expensive, of course.

    I'm not saying they are worth the extra cost in absolute terms, mind.
    For anyone who is happy with the quality of something less expensive, obviously they aren't.
    But quality differences do exist for good, and then it's up to you to decide if it's worth paying.
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    To me, the most important feature of good binoculars is low light function. I've used quite a few boat-owned binoculars, and the top contenders are Fujinon and Steiner. I've found the WM useful, when nothing else is available. I don't know if it's my pupil dilation or the binoculars themselves, but the Fujinons have always been best at light-gathering for me. A client was outfitting his new-to-him yacht in WM with me one day, and asked why he should spend $750 on Fujinons when there were less expensive options. It was around dusk, so I suggested he take them outside. He looked around with them, and focused on some sparrows perched on a telephone wire across the street. When he lowered the binos, he couldn't see the birds. He bought the Fujinons.
    I've always found the Fujinons better for me at night than the Steiners. So much so that I bought my own.
    Here's an interesting and informative article on binocular light-gathering :
    https://www.astronomics.com/info-library/how-to-pick-a-binocular/some-binocular-specifications/
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    Good article. I feel the important issue on a boat is weight.
    Quoting the article;
    While big binoculars have advantages, they usually have
    a big drawback - weight. In general, the bigger the binocular, the heavier it is.
    A binocular that's too heavy to carry comfortably all day long is not a good binocular,
    no matter how sharp its optics.

    Higher priced/quality spec's are heavier also.

    Coming into St Augustine yesterday, it was choppy. I was still able to study the inlet holding my light weights up AND STEADY with one hand.
    Even stabilized glasses need a steady hold, sometimes with one hand during a choppy water observation. Your eyeball(s) have to become steady together with the viewer.
    This may also be important in determining the choice, in a boating environment.
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    Amen: I owned both and like my Fuji's a lot.
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    Zeiss not cheap but have lasted for many years and still provide the views (i believe these are 7X50).