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Trucks, trailers and torque

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  1. Norseman

    Norseman Senior Member

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    Got one of those options on my truck:

    https://www.ford.com/technology/driver-assist-technology/pro-trailer-backup-assist/

    Never tried it, never had a need for it, but as my truck was a factory order most options was dirt cheap compared to ordering later and I ticked most of the boxes.
    Should be easy to sell the truck later with all the bells and whistles.

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  2. GhostriderIII

    GhostriderIII Senior Member

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    Nice but too gaudy. Over here (Iceland) we use Unimogs for just about everything. They are the giants of off-road vehicles - and sip fuel carefully. Most boat ramps are slick or chunk rock. Your Ford (and most American) vehicles would suffer major tyre failure here. I ordered my second (only in life) U4023. It has a 5.1L, 4-in line diesel putting out equiv 227hp and 600 lb ft torque. https://www.mercedes-benz.com/en/ve...og-and-g-class-summit-of-the-off-road-giants/
    Now if you want a suv - then the G class is for you - starting price around $195k, but the Uni is less and does more for the buck. The newer 5023 starts at $250k.
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    Norseman Senior Member

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    Nah, not gaudy: No sunroof, leather seats or Platinum badges, just an honest work truck with a few electronic options and safety features.
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    captholli Senior Member

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    Hey! What's wrong with Platinum Badges? I'm on my third F-150 and the first two being Lariats but I absolutely love this Platinum I have now. Unimog? Yeah, I can see that parked @ Publix...
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    Nuthin wrong with Plats, just tried to point out to Mr. Unimog that my truck is pretty basic, not a luxury boulevard cruiser, like a Plat, or a gaudy F-150:cool:
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    GhostriderIII Senior Member

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    I had gaudy platinum, beemers, even an SRT with a Lambo engine. But none will last in our environment - between sea spray, volcanic ash clouds and acid rain.

    They are easier to park than a dually and the wheel cut is more friendly in tight places - the streets are narrow here - which is why you see more delivery Sprinters than Aeros.

    Better to have something heavily built than flashy. I shipped my Ram 3500 SLT here from Fla about five years ago. The Cummins engine with 450,000 miles on it is still good to go, but the body is shot.

    The cost of everything not made the EU is prohibitive. Your $50k truck there is 3x that here.
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    Agree, that is why I ordered my truck with the Max Towing package: Beefed up frame, beefed up Springs, bumpers, brakes, transmission cooler, big engine, big fuel tank, etc, etc.
    Can tow boat/trailer up to 11,700 lbs, it may come in handy one day.
    I drove in Iceland as well, but managed to stay on the roads, no Unimog needed, enjoyed the Icelandic girls instead, Supreme Quality.:D
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    Certainly not used as a Blvd cruiser, I hauled two 800 lbs round hay bales this weekend after an axle broke on my haul wagon . This truck has been everywhere my Polaris 4x4 Ranger has on my farm in Northern GA. I have a 2018 150 XL Sport with the 3.8 ecoboost on the farm also but prefer the power of the 5.0 v8 w/ 4x4 to get through the mud and ravines. No lite nor wimpy use on a 400 acre farm...

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    For some reason I thought the twin turbo 3.5 eco boost have more power than the 5.0.
    Or did you mean 2.7 eco boost?

    Either way, hat off to anybody working a farm..
    My F-150 only goes between my house and the beer store, or between my house and West Marine. No off road stuff and not hauling no hay. :cool:

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    All about torque baby, all about torque. The turbo 6 is faster and peppier from a standing start and may well have better numbers towing off a hitch that's for sure but the XL sport is much lighter than the Plat. When it comes to a heavy load in the bed the 5.0 seems to have more low end umph to slow crawl in 4x4-low through long pastures and over a steep incline. Of course Fords empirical data supersedes an old retired marine engineer turned Sh*#t kicker on a farm that's for sure!
    Now back to manufacturers stupidity …
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    The 3.5 ecoboost has like 425lbs of torque at 1500 rpms, and makes 470lbs of peak torque, more than the 5.0 liter which only makes 400lbs at 3850.
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    Real life seat time J, I've not Googled the numbers but I've felt and heard it many times through my right foot under varying loads and the 8 does the better job. Love the ecoboost, excellent engine, just not for that application on the farm. personal work thing.
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    It's hard to beat real cubic inches.
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    The SRT I owned had an 8.3L engine in it that couldn't pass a gas station without stopping.
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    More CI, More power to use, Change rear end ratio to use the power, MPG goes down.

    I proved this to myself when I pulled a 350 SBC and installed a 454 LBC. Same props and ratio.
    Same hull speed, consumed the same fuel.
    Of course the engine was under propped. But proved, the same HP consumed the same fuel.
    Worked great with a boat full of divers, equipment (weights and tanks) & full of fuel & potable water.
    Yep, started to use some fuel but boat did not slow down as before.

    Found some speed props to get the RPM down. Now making HP and going very fast. ALSO, burning lots more fuel.
    Now, Slow down to that original boat speed, slower RPMs now, the CI kept the hull on plane, About the same original HP and consumed the same fuel.

    Your 8.3 geared to used that HP.
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    I push big vans and trucks my whole life. MPG sux but I can not stand to drive anything less or lower to the ground.
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    I drove heavy trucks for 30 yrs in the Army - I know all about torque. I always thought the V10 was an underused engine - but now I understand why - 8mpg. The V12 gets about the same mpg with more torque.
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    Think this truck is manufactured in Denmark. Has a Perkins (not sure of HP) but totes a 10 tons up pretty steep grades. Not fast but gets it done. Rides very rough when unloaded. But very handy for moving loads on soft boggy ground and up slopesand such The bed rotates 270 degrees and will dump to either side.Thought some of you would be interested in another European off road truck
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