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Rumor? EIAPP required to clear customs in 2022

Discussion in 'General Yachting Discussion' started by Pascal, Jun 11, 2021.

  1. Pascal

    Pascal Senior Member

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    I was told by a reputable broker that affective 2022, vessels clearing US customs would be required to provide their EIAPP certificate numbers.

    I tried to find out more from the EPA website but got a massive headache just navigate the massive bureaucratic garbage.

    I have to confess that until recently I had no idea what the heck EIAPP stood for... recently as in being handed over two small binders upon closing on the new boat and being warned they cost thousands of dollars if lost.

    Apparently this BS applies to any diesel powered boat, incl Us flagged, traveling to foreign ports (incl Canada and Bahamas) with at least one engine over 175hp or so.
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    Here is the best document I have found addressing the questions.

    Attached Files:

    TahoeJohn and amgscrap like this.
  3. olderboater

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    Engine manufacturers should have the EIAPP and be able to quickly provide it. Only should be a problem with manufacturers no longer in business.

    As to January 1, 2022, it's possible and planned but wouldn't bet money on it not changing still.
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    First couple of lines on the site indicate that it's actually been required since October 2008. Guess they're finally getting around to enforcing it. Maybe it's been handled at the at the manufacturer's end till now.
  5. Pascal

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    Apparently costs vary greatly. I was told that MTU charges thousands of dollars and it takes a while.

    as mentioned, I had never heard of this requirement before
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    Well, the emphasis was on 400 tons and up who are required to have an IAPP certificate, but then they sort of low key in that even if you're not required to have an IAPP, you still must have EIAPP.
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    So if I read it correctly my 43 year old unmodified Detroits are exempt.....

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    That is my understanding, but I don't profess to be an expert on this, just a reader of a few documents and as I don't have 43 year old unmodified Detroits, I've not studied them in depth.
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    I am the last generation that gets to burn fossil fuel with reckless abandon in noisy, polluting engines and I am enjoying every minute of it. Call it a guilty pleasure...... My apologies to the kids. Sort of. In my defense I do recycle at home and on the boat. Unfortunately that program is now thoroughly broken. Destination f%^*ed.
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    Class and Flag check the EIAPP every year. Port state control will also ask for it.

    MTU does in fact charge thousands, had to get it for my last boat and I believe it was $7k each!
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    Don't feel bad. Boeing charges a quarter million for an additional 10,ooo pounds of takeoff weight on a 757. (Paperwork only, no mod to the airplane.)
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    Original Detroits, then Yes.

    This is the beauty of dry liners and a good crank shaft. Always rebuildable,
    If you replace an engine (whole or bare block) with even the same model (after 1/1/00), you will need the EPA ticket.
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  13. Norseman

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    ****, required for my boat, but the piece of paper is not available from Yanmar.
    They do show the 6LPA-STP2, but not my motor, a 6LP-STE.
    https://www.yanmar.com/marine/engines/certifications/
    Now what?

    (Do I have to pay for an independent lab to test and certify the engine?)

    Or just stop cruising the Bahamas..:confused:
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    What is the age of your engines? Have you contacted Yanmar directly?
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    Norseman Senior Member

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    The engine was installed new in the boat April 2001 by the Albin factory in Rhode Island
    Have not contacted Yanmar directly yet, just found this thread today.
    Most likely they will reference the web page I pulled up.

    Will call them in a day or two however.
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    Well, now you know that page doesn't have yours so you're prepared for them.
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    Yes, kind of prepared for an uphill battle, long waits on the phone, being handed from one operator to another most of whom will have no idea what I am talking about, then telling me to see the web page.
    Hoping I am wrong…o_O
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    It is only necessary for a vessel over 24m and over 400T. I don't think ODIN is either!
  19. Pascal

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    As I said I got a massive headache just trying to read thru all that bureaucratic garbage. From what I understand, boats over 400T requires some inspection and additional record keeping.

    it is my understanding the EIAPP certificates are required over 175hp or so regardless or size ... or irregardless as we say south of the border in Miami :)
  20. Ken Bracewell

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    This is off the cuff, and written only from my past experience and no knowledge of what regulations are incoming. But I am fairly certain that existing boats/engines will be grandfathered. Certificates would then be issued to new boats that meet the requirements.

    When that regulation was written, there were some builders who laid keels and ordered engines prior to the deadline in order to be exempt.