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| Rossi Navi |63M| "Utopia IV" -ex Project Vector FR031- | 2018 |

Discussion in 'Rossi Navi Yachts' started by Yacht News, Jul 13, 2018.

  1. Yacht News

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    "Utopia IV" maneuvering... This yacht is 63-meters long built in 2018 with a design all around by Team for Design. The interior volume falls just under 1,000 GT (986GT) with the capacity to sleep up to twelve (12) guests in six cabins. The semi displacement vessel is a full performer being able to stride at just above 30-knots (33-knots) in ideal conditions. Her range is 3,300 nautical miles which permits her to traverse the Atlantic at a sedate 12-knots.

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    Her well-publicized owner need to build something bigger to further stroke his ego.

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    Looks like "Utopia IV" is on the market. It would be the first time, owners trying to get rid of her since owning it from 2018.
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    I remember they had to add stabilizers to the yacht because the gryo system was not working that well.
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    Saw that Utopia had a collision with a tanker off the Bahamian Coast. Anyone else hear anything?
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    This is some youtube coverage from eSysman. Seems it is a "he said she said" situation but more news will come out.
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    What a pile of you know what. This guy doesn’t know anything and keep on yapping and speculating. What a joke of a channel. Dont bother clicking on the link and increasing this clown revenue stream.

    anyway. The small tankers in the Bahamas are always fully lit up with bright flood lights and visible from quite a distance a steel boat that size will lit your radar like a flare!
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    That widely circulated picture was taken from the dock, I suspect the port side shows damage as well.

    it s going to be a legal mess for the owner. While it’s very deep there all that petroleum product even if quite evaporating gasoline will draw a lot of attention.
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    Likely, but I was just pointing out that there couldn't be any claims that Utopia was the stand-on vessel.
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    Agreed especially if it rammed the tanker from behind as claimed in the report
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    I’ve watched some of his videos over the years and they have been informative but this one - Wow! Anyone looking at that picture could tell it’s a tanker, especially with the LP tanks. His monetization should be removed for stupidity.

    Not looking for speculation in this question but what kind of factors could have attributed to this loss?
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    How do you sink a big boat? Tap it on it's stern?
    Must have been a rusted / fragile transom and missing bulkhead doors for it to dissolve like a seltzer tab and sink.

    How do you not see an inter-islands ship? Usually lit up well.

    Glad all are safe but heads will roll (maybe from both boats) on this event.

    I thought that video was hosed up.
    But then I do not subscribe to any big yacht news and thought this was the normal level of yachty talking heads.
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    The monetization is a Brit thing. Any story about a well known celebrity, politico or Royal and you get the cost of everything in the picture. Prince Charles arrives to open something or other and we get the price of his overcoat, shoes and the cost of the car he arrives in. Annoying I agree. So far North American media has largely avoided this tiresome habit.
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    I was wondering the same... a glancing blow from an aluminium hull shouldn't have sent a steel hull to the bottom (one would think).
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    That small tanker was, because of age and size, most likely a single-hull ship. The whole rear hull behind the cargo spaces a single compartment without any watertight bulkheads and watertight doors.

    One hole in this rusty old and beaten hull and there it went to the bottom. As soon as the engine room was flooded, no more pumps were working. I hope their was no pollution caused by this collision.

    Again the famous human factor, high speed at night on AP and the skipper on his own idling in the wheelhouse. That poor old tanker had no chance. Did nobody tell the skipper of this yacht about this green screen with the rotating stroke in front of him?

    And an aluminum hull at high speed can cause a lot of damage to a steel hull because of its momentum and inertia.
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    Even if the tanker's AIS transponder was malfunctioning or simply not on, there's no way that thing doesn't have a robust radar signature. Do these larger yachts have anything analogous to a 'black box' that's used in aviation? I would be curious if the navigation systems of both vessels record and archive telemetry information in real-time.
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    Many of these boats don’t have working ais. In fact the last time marine traffic picked up that one was a year ago. But the primary echo was highly visible.

    sounds like someone fell asleep.
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    A larger Yacht like this (986 GT) and of this age must and will have (according to SOLAS regulations) an hot wired and recording AIS / ECDIS system as voyage mandatory item. On that old and rotten tanker from that area, I doubt they had a working systems like that. I hope, there will be an investigation about this incident. Somebody must have really F U.

    Only a few weeks ago, we had a bad accident with a collision of a small British flagged cargo vessel and a small Danish cargo vessel in Baltic Sea near the Island of Bornholm. The Danish vessel capsized, two crew missing or dead. The Captain of the British vessel was found totally drunken.

    Too bad the good days are gone, where such persons would have walked the plank!
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