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Pool type anchors

Discussion in 'General Yachting Discussion' started by Pascal, Sep 28, 2021.

  1. Pascal

    Pascal Senior Member

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    New to Pool anchors and so far I m not impressed. From the little information I found on line it looks like we have a pair of Pool type N anchors, 90kgs / 198lbs

    So far I ve had to use a lot more scope than I m used to with the Bruce/claw I had in the previous boat. It was a 176 pounder on an 84 skylounge. This thing would hold like Velcro in sand and mud at 6:1. You could feel the bow snap into the breeze when it would set

    with the Pool I ve had to use 10:1 in the same spot/bottom in only 15kts of breeze. 7:1 would result in a slow drag.

    I can’t find any anchor size selection charts on line for these anchors. 198lbs feels a little light for a 110 footer but because of the pocket size I doubt I can upsize

    Am I missing something or do these anchors just require more scope?

    I haven’t anchored in sand yet, just mud. Do they work better in sand ? The Bruce woudl work great in both bottoms

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  2. Ken Bracewell

    Ken Bracewell Senior Member

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    Must be undersized. I've had the same type anchors on every boat I've run for the past 20 years, and rarely ever drag. In shallow water (Bahamas) I use about 8:1-10:1.
    But in deeper water (50+) I generally use about 4:1
  3. Capt J

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    You should have closer to 500 lb anchors for your size. Based on a windage situation......Sounds like Lazzara sized them based on weight and not length.
  4. BRyachts

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    Yeah, I'd say a bit undersized too.
    For years I worked a 120' Tri-deck with those same anchors, but we were 450 lbs, 5/8" chain.
    The pic you posted looks like it could have been taken from that boat, exact same setup.
  5. Gotwex

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    If you decide to upsize, let me know. I'll buy yours.
  6. Pascal

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    Thabks for the feed back guys. I d love to upsize one of them but I doubt anything bigger will fit in the pockets.

    i d like to find a selection chart for these anchors but haven’t so far.

    we were out this week end and spent two nights at a spot with poor holding (thin layer of sand over limestone). We held fine in 15kts+ but with 12:1 scope relying on chain weight. We ll see how it works out in the Bahamas, I guess they ll do better in sand


    Another question related to this set up. How do you attach a bridle besides using the tender ? Any trick? Dangling a flat chain hook with a line on each side of the bow to catch the chain?
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    Sam’s has a stainless 400lb they’ve been trying to sell for at least the last 7 years….
  8. Gotwex

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    After setting our anchor, we attach our snubber/bridle hook to the chain from the deck and run it down through the hawsehole letting out more chain. If we are using the bridle, we attach one leg to the bollard and then pass the other leg through the hawsehole and retrieve it with the boat hook and attach it to the oposite side bollard. Then we adjust everything accordingly. This is all dependent that you have enough room in your hawsehole to run the lines/hook through.
  9. Pascal

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    Thanks. I ll have to check the dimensions
  10. Pascal

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    Unfortunately that s the problem. The hawspipes run from the deck to the pockets and aren’t big enough accommodate a chain hook.

    on the 84 I ve used this which has worked really well:

    https://www.mantusmarine.com/snubber-pendant/

    I ll have to try and see if it and a line can make it thru the hawsepipe. I doubt it
  11. mapism

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    With the chain hook that I posted a few months ago in this thread, you can grab the chain by hanging it overboard with the lines in your hand. It takes a little bit of practice, but by now I usually grab it upon the first attempt (second at worst), in less than half a minute anyway.
    You argued about the ring and carabiner in that thread, but you can also use it with a shackle if you prefer.
    I'm just unsure it if's available for chain sizes above 12mm, in case yours are larger.