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Please help me transport 7 cats across the Pacific Ocean!

Discussion in 'YachtForums Yacht Club' started by Cat Boat, Nov 17, 2018.

  1. Cat Boat

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    Hi everyone

    I'm sorry if I'm posting this in the wrong place - I couldn't find a sub-forum where this topic seemed to fit.

    I'm Australian and my wife is American. She has moved to Australia to live with me but unfortunately her 7 cats have stayed behind. She is very reluctant to transport her cats here on a commercial plane, because they are required to be in cargo to enter Australia, and airlines have a terrible record with killing pets on long flights.

    A private jet is a potential option however the cheapest quote so far is $US220,000. We're not short of money however this is too much for us at the moment.

    Commercial cruise lines don't allow pets, so we are looking to find someone who either makes this trip regularly, or would make the trip for a fee. The route we would be looking to take is Los Angeles/San Francisco to Auckland New Zealand (pets can't arrive in Australia by boat). New Zealand allows transit through certain places like Hawaii and Fiji, however certain stops are not allowed (e.g. Tahiti).

    If anyone can help us, or knows someone who can, we would be very grateful, and there would of course be remuneration.

    Thank you

    Luke
  2. Capt J

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    The amount of issues commercial airlines have with pets is very very rare mathematically compared to the millions of pets that travel on them.
  3. RER

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    Well, let's do the math ...divided by 7 it's a little less than $31,500 each for the private jet. I would think that makes perfect sense for someone who married a chick with 7 cats. No?
  4. chesapeake46

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    HAH, for $ 31K I think each cat should have a private litter box and personal scooper too.
  5. olderboater

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    Each airline is different. United, after several incidents, has implemented a Pet Safe program and has 80 planes with climate controlled areas designed for pet transport. Also, breed and age are important. United will not transport Burmese, Exotic Shorthair, Himalayan, or Persian. I'd be hesitant then with other breeds which are close such as Ragdolls.

    There are many companies that specialize in pet shipping. I'd suggest checking some of them out and talking to them.

    I'd say one other thing. Consider carefully what is in each cat's best interests. Rehoming may be for one or more. I don't know the type home they've had in the US or if they're indoor or outdoor or what your situation in Australia is. I have friends who live in Australia and have small dogs and have to be extremely careful because of the risk outdoors to small pets. There is very different wildlife than in the US. Air is still the best way. I can't imagine the strain on a cat of traveling for months on a boat with strangers when it's never done so before. I'd also think that would entail significant risk from illness at sea to leaping off the boat.
  6. Capt Ralph

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    We have been traveling with kats onboard for 16 years now. They really do not like it. Some got used to it, others did not.
    Something about the motion on a boat. Our big Orange was fine in a head run, beam rolls made him sick.

    We luv kats and kritters big time. No way I'd be taking anything to a foreign country where they are really not welcome.
    If the kats were left behind and are surviving well with friends & family, then leave them there.
  7. GhostriderIII

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    Unless these are show cats I would leave them in America with her friends. There are so many pets that are homeless it boggles the mind. No personally I wouldn't do it. My big old tom sleeps in the engine room where its safe and prowls at all hours when we are in a port.
  8. Oscarvan

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    Pet Safe has been in place for decades. Every airplane out there built after 1980 has climate controlled pressurized cargo holds. There are, indeed, large numbers of animals transported safely every year.

    For emotional comfort and "hedging" of risk I recommend shipping on separate flights.
  9. SeaLion

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    I was thinking "power or sail?" and "what brand of cat?"
  10. Capt Ralph

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    Well, OP Cat Boat has yet to ad additional comments.
    Would like to hear the final plan from the OP one day.

    Did we chase them off or reality set in???
  11. Cat Boat

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    I'm still here, but sadly noone has taken me up on the offer.

    I see nothing wrong with taking cats on a yacht. I know you all find it amusing, but it seems quite normal to me.

    Just google "airline pet death" and you'll see what I'm talking about. If anything the problem is getting worse. It's not the climate control that's the problem. Cats can die of stress.

    Anyway, if anyone knows someone who would like to gate paid a decent amount of money to take a trip across the pacific, please let me know.
  12. Capt J

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    Do you have ANY idea how much more risky it is to take them across the ocean on a sailboat?????? You're worried about an airline and a 12 hour flight, versus maybe 30 days at sea????
  13. olderboater

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    $2 million per cat would be my charge but I'll give you a discount, 7 cats for $10 million.
  14. SeaLion

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    It's not that your question isn't taken seriously, it's that the experienced folks on this forum understand the implications of the request. I am not a cat person, but I'm sure that a month's worth of cat food, water, and kitty litter would require a significant amount of space and resources to manage. Can you imagine cleaning 7 (or ?) litter boxes in 15 foot seas while throwing up from seasickness? Oh, and many animals get seasick.

    Yes, this forum can be snarky, but they really mean well. :)
  15. RER

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    Anybody can google what it takes to import a dog or cat from the USA to AU including the rabies test 180 day waiting period and the 10 day quarantine upon arrival at a minimum cost of $2,000 each. There are pages of information and links for pet transport services. Why would any reasonable thinking person consider a month at sea instead of one day on an airplane? This posting is BS.
  16. Capt Ralph

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    I'll ride with the kats airborn (In a Ralph sized shipper) and hand hold them till we arrive. Even go thru quarantine with them for $2M USD (plus expenses).
    I have had kats on my boat for 16 years. Cuddled them every time one got sea sick (read my old post).
    My passport and shots are up to date.
  17. Capt Ralph

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    Your not a kat luver. ;);)
  18. olderboater

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    Well, we love all creatures including cats and that love would never allow me to subject one that's never been on a boat to weeks on one and to do so away from anyone it's ever known. The rate of survival would likely be as bad or worse than airlines. Then there's the entire entry and quarantine and everything else involved. I know cats that require sedation for any type of transportation. You can't keep them sedated all the time a water crossing would require. You can't let cats that are new to you and to boats roam on the boat and yet keeping them caged would be extremely traumatic when the boat tossed about in the water and they were unable to use their instinctive abilities to compensate.

    I'd also ride with one airborne before I would take one across on a boat. Not in your arms though unless on a private or chartered plane.
  19. Capt Ralph

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    View attachment 83703 Ah, charter me a plane and my rate is half (plus expenses)..
    I know I'll either end up in jail, fined, Baker Acted (or the Australian version). That's the expenses.

    Our kats are loose on our boat. When it gets ugly they stay inboard. They usually find a secure place them selves.
    Tiger stayed on deck but hated beam rolls.

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    Are we suppose to find some meaning in that the cat seems to be living in a box with beer nearby? A Bertram 58 beats living under a bridge, but I seem some similarities.