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  1. ApreMare

    ApreMare Senior Member

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    Apparently according to just posted bloomberg article Oceanco is building a 127 meter sailing yacht and shadow boat for Jeff Bezos. I can’t seem to recall the pictures of a hull transfer and I would appreciate if anyone here can share more info is possible. Also curious how the heli carrying shadow boat would look like and what time frame are we looking to see these exciting projects.
    The article is fascinating itself, you could see the confirmation regarding the yachts on the last paragraph.
    The Untold Story of How Jeff Bezos Beat the Tabloids
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/feat...loids-the-untold-story-of-money-sex-and-power
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    "Employees now had even more reasons to wonder. What did the future hold for their founder? At least part of the answer to that could be found in the shipyards of the Dutch custom yacht builder Oceanco. There, outside Rotterdam, a new creation was secretly taking shape: a 127-meter-long, three-mast schooner about which practically nothing was known, even in the whispering confines of luxury boat builders—except that upon completion, it will be one of the finest sailing yachts in existence. Oceanco was also building Bezos an accompanying support yacht, which had been expressly commissioned and designed to include—you guessed it—a helipad." SOURCE: Bloomberg
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  3. ApreMare

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    Thank you for posting the excerpt. I am expecting a technical launch in 2022, although some say it could be earlier than that. I’m surprised how well they hid these projects - for sure as per request of the super private owner- also surprised why we didn’t see hull transfer etc, maybe it didn’t happen at all. That fact obviously would put us at a 2022 delivery at the earliest. Please discuss.
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    Yeah, I haven't seen any transfer to Oceanco but their newest shed has a dry dock that is 156-meters X 52-meters and can build yachts in the region of 142-meters. Given that this 'project' is supposed to be 127-meters it means it probably can't be built at any of their other older facilities. Then they have the Heerema Zwijndrecht facilities...the dimensions of those sheds are in the photo below.

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    It's most likely the Y 721 project. The hull sections were moved on pontoons to the Zwijndrecht facility (2019?). At that time there were several pictures/videos on the internet, but it seems that they have been removed in the meantime, at least I couldn't find them anymore.
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    So that means that the 109-meter Y720 and this supposed Y721 project are in build at the Zwijndrecht facilities. We should see Y720 this year, 'Y721' would have to be sometime in 2022 if it moved there in 2019.
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    Y 720 was moved to Alblasserdam for outfitting. It's in there in the "old" construction hall.
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    Since this is supposedly a schooner, should we expect a yacht that looks like EOS from Lurssen? They did an amazing job of keeping every detail away from us so far:)
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    Pretty excited for this one. Hopefully more details and photos will come out soon!
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    One credible instagram account which is rarely wrong reported that Schooner will in-fact look similar to EOS and reports that not Oceanco but Damen is building the support vessel and it will be their 75 meter model. My apologies but from the Bloomberg article I thought that both the mothership and her support vessel was being built at Oceanco.
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    It will be interesting to see what evolves. Glad he chose a sailing yacht.

    But then regardless, why is it that these people have to choose such gigantic ships,...certainly limits their true usefulness.
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    Hey Brian... could you elaborate more on this? How does it limit their true usefulness? In terms to diminished sailing capability? Practical use by the owner? Marina access? (physical length, draft considerations).
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    The 2 you mentioned are just a few. The huge crowd of required crew and support personnel would not be inviting to my enjoyment of a vessel,...my downtime. I once worked as a captain of a 60 foot power yacht for a short time, and the owner would purposefully ask me to 'get lost' when he came down for visits. He enjoyed running the boat himself when he visited.

    And the larger the vessel, the much more limited you are in places to explore. Can you imagine finding dock space for such a huge yacht. In many cases you would need to be put in with commercial shipping,.....would that be fun??

    What necessity for this huge size,...just to claim 'mine is bigger!!'

    I think the original builder of Matese Falcon, Tom Perkins had some answers to that question when he questioned his own project.

    I would be much more pleased with a vessel I could invite my wife/girlfriend or a few guest on board for a weekend, or week/month on the water enjoyment.
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    I think if you are Bezos you don’t want to be at a dock when you are on board. The bigger the boat the more time you and your crew can stay away from shore in comfort.
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    I am surprised Bezos might be heading down the EOS conventional three-masted schooner route as suggested rather than the 106m Black Pearl three masted free standing dynaRig. The extra engineering required for rigging attachments throughout the hull, plus all the powerful automated sail handling systems, let alone extra crew to operate them would seem to make this a pretty daft option for the worlds richest man. Who on earth is advising him? He should spend a day on Black Pearl and then a day on Eos and then decide.
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    Two very different yachts. A lot of what you say are moot points for him. Why would he care about extra engineering or crew? He probably just likes that classic look compared to an ultra modern sailer (which, I’d argue would be best to go with some sort of wing design).
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    I kind of agree Black Pearl is more suited to a tech guy if you think about it, but having said that like @germanyachting says it all comes down to personal taste. I like to also add, what we hear at this point is pure speculation, we might expect something like EOS or Athena and we might be surprised with a futuristic yacht.
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    Going to be massive!