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Discussion in 'General Yachting Discussion' started by PeaceAndQuiet, Apr 3, 2010.

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  1. PeaceAndQuiet

    PeaceAndQuiet New Member

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    Hello YF members, Id like to commend staff on creating such an informative and useful forum. I have a question and yes I did use the search feature with no success.

    I was thinking about how nice it would be to have an indoor jacuzzi / spa / hot tub around midship starboard of a vessel like a Sunseeker 60' Manhattan so that one would be able to sit and relax in the jacuzzi while watching TV. Location as such circled in red:

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    This would require removal of the seating directly behind the helm and (facing main salon seating) the left section of main salon seating. I also understand the underside of the tub would have to be fitted to match the contours of the two steps you see to the left of the highlighted location which might make for a nice seat inside the tub although this seat wouldnt exactly be facing towards the TV. Has anyone ever heard of or seen this type of fabrication? Costs?
    Also how feasible would you say relocation of the two removed seats to elsewhere on the boat is? Heres a good visual of the entire layout of the boat for possible removed seats location:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yA1skagL-U8

    I cant wait to see you all tell me how stupid I am for this idea. : )
  2. NYCAP123

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    Two problems leap to mind and both are water. 1) Even at the dock you risk spillage from rocking (You'd certainly have to empty it when cruising). 2) Mold. You'll be creating a very damp environment inside your salon. A third problem would be getting the hot water since you'll pretty much have to fill it and heat all that water when you want to use it.
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    Think resale. :eek:

    Judy
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    PeaceAndQuiet New Member

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    I would think both problems could be solved with a little ingenuity. Perhaps some type of water-tight cover and/or decreased water volume while cruising? As for mold is a base with a wide radius for the tub out of the question? For hot water supply why wouldnt this indoor hot tub operate the same way that an outdoor hot tub on the flybridge or foredeck does? I would really like to make this idea come to life as I have seen some indoor pools do exist in some of the larger yachts. Im not sure if you can tell from this thread or not but I am very new to yachting or anything marine for that matter.


    I thought about resale value and deemed it irrelevant as I would like to buy a new boat with no previous owners and keep her for a good 20 years while staying on top of maintenence religiously. In other words I really dont plan on reselling so I'd like to make her mine and this is probably the only major fabrication I'd have done. These Manhattans seem to already depreciate by 50% in 4-5 years time so why resell if yours meets all your needs (except for an indoor hot tub) and you enjoy her as much or more as you would any other similarly sized yacht.
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    As NYCAP says, damp and mould will be your biggest issues and they are a nightmare to deal with. Unless you turn your salon into a head, you will have never ending problems with this. Water has its place and the salon isn’t one of them. I strongly recommend that you don’t do this.
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    As for resale, you'd be one of the first people I've seen in a long time to keep a 60' yacht for 20 years. Those who can afford a $4M yacht usually prefer not to have an old moldy boat, and seem to want the latest and greatest (and bigger) about every 3 to 5 years. They can also afford a nice land base (that often includes at least one jacuzzi) or a weekend at a resort.
    As for a watertight lid, it would weigh about 300 lbs. to have a beefy enough seal. You'd never be able to get it off much less find a place to store it. You'd also need a massive exhaust fan and several dehumidifiers. Then there are the inevitable leaks. BTW, who gets the stateroom below all that water? Since you don't have much boating experience let me suggest that you hitch a ride on a 60' yacht in 10' seas. Then imagine the affect of having 80 to 500 gallons of water at 8.35 lbs. per sloshing about. No, this is like the limos with hot tubs out back. Great attention grabber, but nobody really wants to own one.
    A better idea if you can afford a 60' Sunseeker is a cruise to a nice resort where you'll have 85* water all around to swim in and a jacuzzi next to the swimming pool and more than a few nice ladies lying about. Then you can invite them back to your yacht. Trust me, they won't ask if you have a jacuzzi.:cool:
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    Ah I had high hopes for this idea but I guess an indoor jacuzzi on this sized yacht isnt meant to be. As for the ladies, that isnt really the lifestyle I'd like to lead (porn untill marriage! or atleast engagement! Yes I know Im different right?) Thanks a ton for your insight I do value yours a great deal, NYCAP.

    What about some of the larger yachts equipped with indoor swimming pools or jacuzzis? How do you explain their structural integrity? I dont have links to reference to but I know Ive seen one or two, online that is.
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    Hi,

    I can't think of any yachts off hand where the swimming pool and or jacuzzi are fully enclosed.

    I am doing a study to put a 8000 lts pool on the sundeck of an 80m steel motoryacht right now.

    The structural mods are quite something in themselves. There will have to be 4 x 125mm sand filled steel poles all the way down through the boat to the top of frames that are attached to the shell plating. It has also been clearly stated by the Naval Architects and Shipyard that the pool is only for use at anchor or alongside.

    I have worked on other big yachts with Jaccuzis and am yet to see one that can be used when the boat is underway in a seaway.
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    I found the boat I was thinking of when I said I had seen larger yachts with indoor pools and it looks like Im mistaken. Heres what I was referring to:
    The stupid dumb Madsummer
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    Looking through the YF reviews Ive realized the only boats with jacuzzis or pools are the displacement hull types and I think the Manhattan is a planing. Ugh, whatever happened to the expression "Theres a will, theres a way!"
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    I you have the will, there is a way. It's just a really bad idea, which will cause you more trouble than the benefit is probably worth (although that is your decision to make).
    My guess is that some day you'll be sitting in the salon of your 60 and will chuckle when you look back and think about what would have been if...
  11. K1W1

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    Hi,

    Have you actually been out on the type of boat you are planning on putting this pool into?

    Charter one and go for a ride in it, see if you can move around freely when it is underway, if possible also ask the Captain to run it into a head sea and see what it's like then. Sit in it at anchor with your food and drinks sitting on the table in a busy anchorage with other boats roaring past.

    You might change your mind on what you want to have as a platform for a pool after that.

    A whirlpool bath is probably something more likely to be accommodated on a 60 ft speedboat, just not sure when you could fill it given the small size of the water tanks on one.
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    I fish the tournament circuit and there is a guy from Texas that has a Sonny Briggs with a hot tub located under the master bed.
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    How about wearing a drysuit, fitting a hosepipe, fill it up and eating lots and lots of beans and pickled onions?

    Fish
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    Hi,

    Have you ever heard it has been used by the Owner and if so in what conditions can it be used?

    Is this the boat?

    http://uk.boats.com/listing/gallery...Unknown/21738801?r=21738801&entityid=21738801

    It mentions the tub but doesn't seem to have a photo of it even though there are two of the pink main engines.
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    Aha! Can you find and post a picture? Ditto on K1's questions.
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    Yes, that is the boat. I don't have a pic of the actual tub, but it is under the master and I have heard that it doesn't get used much. In addition, the outriggers are carbon fiber, this is a highly customized battle wagon.

    His answer when asked why are the engines pink is that "all women are pink on the inside"....only in TX.
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    This post got me to go back and reread the review, and I just happened to notice someones calculator must be broken:D

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    I was formerly the 2nd owner of Oz, a Don Brooks 80' motorsailor. The 1st owner was the director of The Deep (and later Rainman). The Deep was filmed off the coast of Cuba, but the US director needed a "residence" nearby. He bought Oz new with an inset Jacuzzi on the aft deck. I heard of many movie star parties where the Jacuzzi was enjoyed.

    We purchased Oz a few years later and spent several years cruising from Bahamas to Alaska enjoying the aft deck Jacuzzi at anchor. There were the occasional calm passages where I could enjoy soaking although obviously we lowered the water level when underway.

    Subsequent owner had the LOA extended and the Jacuzzi got deleted in the process. Was really too bad.

    Obviously generator and watermaker were essential.

    Judy