"Costa Magna" Proteksan yacht 1983

Was it the Captain/Owner/Manager I can understand it...

Sounds like someone forgot to read the fine print.

Well, that cuts it for me...........Taking my next 93,000 Euros down the dock.

Hi Ombreet,

If you charter a larger luxury yacht, you charter the whole yacht and you can bring as many guest as the yacht has beds / cabins and the boat is cleared for. Expences like food are normally not included in the charter rate. I have never heard of all inclusive yacht charter. If this yacht is cleared for 12 guests, as it is normal for non SOLAS yachts, you can have a dinner or a party with more guests in harbour or at the mooring but the captain can not allow more guests, when going to sea. The ships papers will tell the max allowable number of persons on board and during cruise but for non SOLAS, 12 guests is max. Because its crew, crew does not count, but they count for max. persons on board (rescue equipment and buoyancy). Charter per number of persons or charter per bed or cabin is not normal. This is only done with sailboats or larger Cats (sunreef), where you can charter by cabin or even bed. But then you can not tell the skipper where to go, its more of a cruise.

So, either your friend has not given you all the facts or he did not read the charter contract closely enough. Plus the charter rate sounds pretty high for this old and outdated lady, bearing in mind the extra costs and expences which will come on top after 3 weeks of charter.

If the captain was in error, your friend may cut down on tips (for the captain) after the cruise as a little revenge . Anything else is concidered mutiny and only feeds the lawyers.

Hi,

As you have only heard your acquaintances side of the story there could well be more to this than meets the eye.

Normal chartering on Western Med Terms means the guests pay for everything on top of the base price.

Vessels have a maximum number of people they can charter for , maybe this extra one was the straw that broke the camels back.

Be careful posting stories when you don't have all the facts in a public forum. These things have been known to bite people.

Take the time to GOOGLE the boat and you will discover the rate mentioned is mid-range (90,000 - 96,000 EUR pw).

She may be an old and outdated lady; but lists the last refit year as 2013.

Too Many People

I would guess that HTMN has it about right. There is a maximum number of charter guests allowed, and it is clearly written into the contract. This number is 12, and it is mandated internationally. In recent years brokers have been trying to push this limit and have come up with the term "supernumerary", which they are applying to a nanny or personal assistant- thus allowing them to have a 13th non-crew member aboard.
So perhaps your friend was already pushing the limit, and tried to push it one step too far.
As with most problems in life, I would guess that there is a communication issue with the Captain and your Bud. Perhaps even a language barrier.

But as HTMN says, the max number of guests apply when going to sea or overnight stays. I have never seen a charter yacht moored or at port you couldn't visit for a while or for dinner because of that maximum. Never ever, and I have been to a few.

So, your friend visits an eatery that offers buffet (because the table was filled with food and drinks).

Enjoys a meal and exits the establishment.

Does he consider the Manager a drama queen for stopping him outside the eatery;
because he would have to charge him for the dinner?

The example was an attempt to light the bulb. It served its purpose.

Ken alludes to the most likely reason for the Captain's refusal.

http://www.yachtforums.com/forums/b...-magna-proteksan-yacht-1983-a.html#post177846