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AZIMUT 55Fly 2005

Discussion in 'Electronics' started by Markhentschke, Jul 28, 2023.

  1. Markhentschke

    Markhentschke New Member

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    The 2 amp blade fuse for Anchor Light has blown and needs replacing, Looked behind steering station panels, main breaker panel and behind Stb twin cabin panels cant find. Does any-one know where fuse holder it is hidden please. Also contacted AZIMUT so far with No help. The fuse holder has a number of fuses for various lights so need to know.
    Thanks
  2. Capt Ralph

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    Welcome to Yacht Forums

    You know it is a 2 amp blade fuse and don't know where it is?
    How do you know it is a 2 amp blade fuse?

    The fuse holder has fuses for various lights, So you found the fuse panel?
    Or, this is an assumption?

    Have you looked behind the DCv breaker panel yet?

    Azimut may not be of much help. There is not a standard print set or schematic for your boat or any Mut.

    Hang in there,
    Hopefully, some Mut owner will join in here and offer suggestions to where they have found their electrical thingies.
  3. Markhentschke

    Markhentschke New Member

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    AZIMUT circuit documentation indicates a 2 amp fuse, a marine engineer recollected a blade fuse in Az55, looked where he suggested but nothing there? Yes looked behind DC panel
    Thank You
  4. Capt Ralph

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    You have MUT circuit documentation??
    Sorry for laughing.

    Well, It's hidden somewhere special. When you do find it, ya got to laugh also.
    I remember one chap found a fuse behind a head mirror.
  5. mapism

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    I half recall to have sen in a 55 fly a schematic drawing of the boat on stbd side of the lower helm, with LEDs showing what is on/off.
    I can't be positive, but navlights fuses may be placed around that drawing, with some holders similar to the ones below.
    Which hold glass rather than blade fuses BTW, but as I understand the chap you asked to wasn't so sure...?
    Oh, and in case the labels would be in Italian (as the following ones), the allround white is called "fonda".
    [​IMG]
  6. Pascal

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    I don’t think I have ever seen a boat using fuses instead of circuit breaker for basic systems. Lousy idea.
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    Welcome to the club!
    I also keep coming across something I've never seen before on a boat, after 30+ years of boating. :D
    Though fuses for navlights are actually quite popular, at least on this side of the Pond.

    Regardless, why a lousy idea?
    Aside from the obvious convenience of re-arming a breaker vs. replacing a fuse (which in practice is what, 2 seconds vs. 20? Not such a big deal, I reckon), fuses remain the safer, faster and more accurate circuit protection known to mankind.
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    It takes more than 20 seconds to replace a fuse since you have to get to your spare box, check the rating etc.

    No downside to breakers. I don’t think I be ever had one go bad.
  9. Capt Ralph

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    Oh, the fuse to the lights blew, I'm in the dark, Do I have a fuse??
    Since I am going to trip over and fall on the same stuff to replace a fuse or reset a breaker, I'd rather that journey's completion with just the push of The Finger..
    In the dark, I prefer breakers also.

    And this chicken / egg argument has been had before. From a marine industry view; The chicken cost more,, is the end to that line.

    The breakers do cost more. Kind of inspires the cost reduction of the rest of the boat, uh?

    BTW, I have witnessed good looking fuses and breakers that were bad.
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  10. mapism

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    Good for you, 'cause when they do, they have the bad habit to stay stuck closed.
    In fact, coming to think of it, I've only ever seen fuses on navlights, not on any other onboard lights.
    I guess some builders (not only Azi, but also Ferretti and several others) think it's better to err on the side of caution, with safety-related circuits.
    I mean, I was the first to say that breakers are more convenient, but replacing melted wiring snaked all the way to wherever navlights are placed isn't my idea of fun, either.

    I even wonder if it isn't a RINA requirement, considering that all the boats I have in mind are wired with:
    - single fuses for each of the 5 navlights, BUT
    - dozens of breakers for everything else.
    Doesn't sound like a cost-driven choice...
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  11. Capt Ralph

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    I've been on some OLD boats with fuses for all DCv equipment and a breaker panel for all ACv equipment.
    I always contributed that to nobody thought much about DCv breakers.
    I think now days, all breakers have AC & DC volt ratings.

    My first Chris Craft had a main throw-switch AVc box with a few screw in fuses.
    All DCv had AGC fuse panels.

    My (younger) 45 year old Bert has DP breakers for it's nav lights.

    I just tried to find anything from RINA dealing with nav lights. My eyes rolled back a third time, I struck out out.
    I can never be on that level of drugs or alcohol to understand that level of text. Whoowee
    Never got close to any Nav light voltage supply text.

    So, breakers for all but the Nav lights?
    Your going to maintain a tin of fuses just for a few fuse thingies yet most else is on breakers?
    Well, That explains it; somebody does much better with drugs or alcohol than I can. I don't feel so bad now..
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    Hello Markhentschke
    Have you found the fuse yet?
    Looking forward to learn where that build crew hid it.
  13. mapism

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    Yes, but it ain't a big tin, really.
    Can't speak for the OP boat (or any others with a similar setup, for that matter), but in mine those 5 fuses have all the same rating.
    Bigger problem they ever gave me was to find a place to keep a few spares handy, near the electrical panel.
    And I don't even know why I bothered, considering that they are still the original ones that came with the boat in 2004...
  14. Harold Bishop

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    On my Azimut, the 'fuzes' are little ones hidden inside the gray wire connectors behind the plotters on the lower helm. I never would have guessed that the tops lift up and there are little glass fuzes inside. Once you find, easy to replace. Each gray connector has a fuze inside it. Pretty amazing...